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Ukraine shoots down 4 Russian fighter jets in weekend killstreak, says air force chief
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 18 Feb 2024
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Not really great news when you just lost a strategic town. I feel they are reporting every single kill, even the most minor ones, while underreporting the general state of things at a bigger level.
Avdiikva is a big loss, but just like Bahkmut it was inevitable as long as Russia will throw away men and materiel into the meat grinder, whilst Ukraine values their soldiers lives
They’ve made the Russians really pay for all their ‘big wins’ and ran a serious defense throughout, it was common to see 10+ Russian tanks and IFVs destroyed each day. The troop losses have been so numerous, that’s been hard to keep track of
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/04/24/war/
Any single plane shot down isnt small. And they allegedly shot down 4. Not just that, pilots may also be lost, which is just as if not even worse of a loss for russia.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the pilots they are putting in fighters aren't experienced fighter pilots. Using Russia's thinking, I would be retaining my experienced pilots to train non-military pilots how to get into a fighter, fly it and attack with it. Then when they are all dead, use my experienced pilots.
Well it’s not like you can take a commercial airliner pilot, stick him in a fighter jet, and tell him to go drop bombs. While he may need less training he’d still require a significant amount of training before he could be expected to take on even relatively safe missions and return safely. It’s not like Su-34’s etc. roll off the assembly line quickly enough to regularly use them on kamikaze missions.
I read (sorry dont have a source) that russian fighter pilots fly commercial just to get flight hours, cause they dont get enough from the military. So uh... maybe a lot of them just didnt and maybe still dont have much experience at all. Or maybe they do now... those who still survive.
This is like the most idiotic strategy. It will take Ukraine a short amount of time to get more missiles. They are probably sending back every single MB of data from these Patriots to the US Army.
The US hasn't fought a country with actual jets in decades. This is priceless information for them and missiles are basically free.
"You see, ~~killbots~~ Patriots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own ~~men~~ planes at them until they reached their limit and shut down." - Captain Zap Putin
Russia was throwing away upwards of a thousand men per day for a pile of rubble town. Much more useful for domestic propaganda than military value.