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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ.

I 100% get it. This twists my heart in a way that is unbearable. However we cannot flirt with the siren song of vengeance. It's a poisoned impulse. That whisper calling to dehumanize those who dehumanize is a devil that plays all sides, and when we listen to it it takes us away from the mission to protect life.

We need to save the children of Palestine. We need to bring PEACE and SECURITY to Gaza. Wishing for genocide against Israel is not only unproductive, it's deeply counterproductive and wrong. Channel your anger towards love of the vulnerable, NOT hate.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And while we ask then politely to stop, how many more will he slaughtered with our weapons? How many of them will fight back to be defeated by our Iron Domes? How much blood on our hands does there have to be before we stop them the only way their hate addled minds can comprehend?

We didn't ask the Nazis to stop, we put them down like dogs. Sometimes you protect life by taking it and I'm tired of half measures when people are being slaughtered. Starved. Made to drink muddy water.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You're operating under an assumption that is as widespread as it is unfounded: that how seriously we take a problem correlates with our willingness to kill.

That willingness -- to commit counter-genocide, if I'm understanding you correctly -- isn't an identifying feature of people with courage to act or a deep-hearted commitment to protecting the vulnerable.

Ultimately, I think you will always find yourself at the same fork: do you pursue safety for the vulnerable OR do you pursue your adversary?

At this moment, it's as obvious as ever. Even if you killed every Israeli -- which is a phrase that genuinely disgusts me to type out -- that wouldn't rescue Gaza. They need food and medicine. After you finish executing your fantasy... the people of Gaza are still starving, and in addition to committing mass murder against Jewish Israelis, you would have killed 1.3 million Israeli Palestinians.

We need to start with support for the people of Palestine, as well as innocent Israelis. And then we need to ask what they need and break through any obstacle to provide it. We need to throw sand and wrenches in the gears of war. But your hate speech and truly nauseating fantasies aren't doing anything to help anyone. And if I can be frank, I'm deeply skeptical that anyone who speaks as you do is of any use to the cause of Palestinian liberation.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'd love support for Palestinians, IDF and 'protestors' refuse to let it through. Now what? Peace isn't an option, they've ensured it.

This isn't hate speech and if you find my fantasies nauseating you can go be morally outraged in the corner where nobody will listen and those that do will be as helpless as you are.

I hate the hateful. I don't tolerate the intolerant. You can call me a hypocrite or whatever else, I don't care, there is no room in this world for monsters and I will gladly rid the world of them so you don't have to.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You just want to kill innocents pf the other side. Your idea is not any better than the idea israel has with Gaza

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Lol no, unlike the fucking monsters that live among them Id like women, children, and all noncombatants to be completely unharmed.

Fuck the rest.