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[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the suckage of, say, Germany or the Netherlands being less nice to refugees and farm animals is exactly the same as Russia and China actively committing genocide right now.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah let's conveniently forget about the agent orange and the toppling of governments to install dictators

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not. The both sucked in the past. But let me repeat:

Russia is committing genocide. Right now. China is committing genocide. Right now.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My country is a military dictatorship right now at least in part because the US supported the overthrow of the democratically elected leader.

And just to be clear, I'm not comparing who is "worse". I understand that a genocide kind of takes the cake there if you really want to have a pissing contest about it. But the OP above you said that they were "pro-NATO", which in my book means they're a shit person.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a shit person, but thanks. Without NATO Europe would have been a huge mess

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that was uncalled for my bad, and I do understand what you mean about Europe. But while the US is helping Europe, it's actively fucking the rest of us over, with European countries' help. So that's great for you, but being pro-NATO can only be seen as extremely selfish at best.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's ok. Just to add: I wish the whole world would live in peace, and I wish organisations like NATO wouldn't be nessesary.