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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 104 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

The arguments about "inefficiency" and "bureaucracy" have to be the most baffling ones to me. We already have a system that is an inefficient maze of red tape, lengthy forms, and arbitrary decisions about healthcare availability made by suits without medical training. We already pay high premiums. What "efficiencies" of capitalist healthcare are we so desperate to preserve?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 79 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every single dollar earned in profit by a health insurance company is a dollar that was spent on healthcare, for which no healthcare was delivered. And there are billions of them.

Health insurance company profits are literally inefficiency in the system.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Health insurance company profits are literally inefficiency in the system.

And an absolutely staggering inefficiency at that. The US spends roughly twice as much per capita as the rest of the developed world for healthcare, for health outcomes that are ranked nowhere near the top. A 100% inefficiency, attributable entirely to private health insurance.

[–] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

The ability to efficiently empty your wallet into a company's bank account.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

cApItaLIsm iS tHe OnlY EfFiCiEnT sYsUUuuuuM!!11!1!1 - every capitalist-simp

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is very analogous to evolution. I wouldn't call it efficient in any way.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Someone starts a new company. It either grows or dies. The company can change over time to adapt to it's environment, it can split, it can spawn new companies. The ones that fit best in their environment survive. The ones that don't die. Some companies fill a specific niche and never grow beyond that. If they grow too big they can outpace their environment and destroy it and themselves.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

and some turn into literal cancer that is killing society!

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago

Some companies fill a specific niche and never grow beyond that. If they grow too big they can outpace their environment and destroy it and themselves.

Don't mind me, just fantasizing about the alternate timeline where Amazon never expanded past selling books.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] frokie@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Nope that’s why it takes so long and causes species extinction along the way

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

pls expand:

C a p i t a l i s m i s a n a l o g o u s t o e v o l u t i o n . I w o u l d n ' t c a l l i t e f f i c i e n t i n a n y w a y .

pls expound:

Someone starts a new company. It either grows or dies. The company can change over time to adapt to it's environment, it can split, it can spawn new companies. The ones that fit best in their environment survive. The ones that don't die. Some companies fill a specific niche and never grow beyond that. If they grow too big they can outpace their environment and destroy it and themselves.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Efficiency only comes at scale. Only way to be truly efficient in capitalism is to ultimately have the entire system fold into one conglomerate monopoly.

At that point, how is that better than communism or socialism?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The efficiency of the system at making a few people very rich. Sure, it impoverishes people like us - but someday, WE might be rich! And then people like us better watch our step!