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[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 69 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also helps ensure the drugs are clean. The US marijuana legalization process has absolutely not been perfect but the regime of testing for pesticides and mold is very effective.

If cocaine were legal and regulated you wouldn't be hearing all these stories of people dying of fentanyl overdoses from doing shitty cut coke.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It does make me wonder where they swiss government will acquire their coke. With weed, it's fairly easy to grow it wherever you need to, but with coke, you pretty much have to be in certain regions, yeah?

If that's the case, is this still going to be supporting those same cartels? If more countries legalized, we could maybe hope to see legally grown, harvested, and processed coke without all the slave labor and shit. Could be a real boon for South American countries, too, if the cartels lost power, and the cocoa plantations could be nationalized.

I just woke up, so I may be just talking out my ass, though

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

Good catch. I genuinely don't know if that was me or autocorrect 😄

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm honestly totally ignorant to whether they can be grown indoors at scale outside of their normal growing region, but that's a good point to bring up.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If you go to Peru, you can buy coca leaf tea, grown by legitimate companies, sold entirely legally. It's amazing for adjusting to high altitudes, if you ever go to the Andes, I highly recommend you drink the tea.

There's huge illegal growing operations, but there's legal ones. It's not that hard to grow - I think it likes high altitudes and moisture, but although it's not as easy to grow as "weed", I'm pretty sure it's easier than coffee

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

That's really cool to know! I doubt I'll ever get the opportunity, but it'll be something I try if I ever do!

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Not gonna lie I would love to have access to that tea. The powder is great and all but it makes me twitchy and I really only enjoy it on a night out while also drinking. I could see myself using the tea for long work sessions etc.

[–] obbelusk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is there a high connected to coca tea, or does it have to be refined?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's all dosage and concentration, like anything really. Cocaine is just a simple extraction from it

You could get high off it, but not on accident... You'd have to put in some leg work

[–] obbelusk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, drinking a large amount of liquid is what I'd call "leg work". You can't just do a bump or smoke something, you have to pace your tea intake... Much harder to overdose or go on a bender

[–] obbelusk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is Peru that country where lots of people, even older ones, with physically demanding jobs chew coca leaves before going to work?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, especially at high altitudes.

I would too... It helps blood flow and is a simulant. Gentler than caffeine too

[–] Mobilityfuture@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Ethically sourced sustainable cocaine