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None of the others in town have these, thought it was unusual enough to share

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's absolutely insane that a speaker coil works as an antenna in this case, but perhaps even more insane that the signal survives mp3 compression.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It has to cover a parking lot full of radio signals from cars. They're probably just listening for "close enough".

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's more likely a buried loop antenna, like an invisible fence.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is that insane? The entire point of an mp3 file is to be able to reproduce signals with reasonable accuracy. Seems like the signal has a frequency of around 8khz, which is very much in the range of human hearing and should be preserved by an mp3.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, the point of MP3 is to compress audio in a lossy manner while minimizing the introduction of artifacts detectable by human hearing using psychoacoustic analysis. The coincidence that the necessary parasitic EM signal induced by speaker drivers happens to be created by a signal that doesn't suffer degradation by a relatively specific lossy compression method is remarkable.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, but artifacts in the ~8khz range will be detectable by human hearing. mp3s are going to be perfectly acceptable for many sounds in that frequency range... The fact that this works is evidence of that.

Plus, you know what else is lossy? Radio. If the signal is that fragile there's a good chance the locking mechanism wouldn't work in the first place.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Go actually read about MP3 compression before you continue misusing the term "lossy."

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's just going to be pulses of an 8khz signal. Why would an MP3 not encode this just fine?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like I said before, the coincidence is what's remarkable.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It’s a bit of a coincidence that the signal is in the audible range, for sure! I’m not too surprised that an MP3 can reproduce a digitally modulated sin wave in the audible spectrum, but I can see how it’s surprising to people that a sound card is basically a dinky low frequency SDR. Van Eck Phreaking is another good example of this kind of stuff. CRTs in particular produce very obvious emissions which match what’s being displayed.