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16GB should be the absolute bare minimum with 32GB being standard at this point.
Selling 8GB high end laptops like macbooks with soldered RAM shouldn't be a thing at all. It's such a waste of resources, because devices which could be used in 10 years won't be useful beyond basic word processing and browsing.
The only reason Apple has them is to have a low starting price while taking 200 USD for 8GB additional RAM. For context, 16GB RAM costs about 50 USD in retail.
Not even that. For most basic users, web browsing is by far the most resource-intensive thing they'll ever do, and it'll only get moreso. If it weren't for modern web design, most users could honestly probably be okay with 4GB or 8GB of RAM today. For a laugh, I tried using a 512MB Raspberry Pi 1B for all my work for a few days. I could do absolutely everything (mostly developing code and editing office documents) without any problems at all except I couldn't open a single modern web page and was limited to the "retro" web. One web page used up more resources than all of my work combined. I'm guessing it won't be too many years before web design has evolved to the point where basic webpages will require several GB of RAM per tab.
(I agree with your overall point, by the way. Soldering in 8GB of RAM these days is criminal just based on its effects on the environment)
I think we should strive for either:
There is no reason why 8gbs shouldn't be enough, excluding gaming.