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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Ok, but why does the same party stay in power if a vote happens early? Seems like the conservatives have had control of England for the last 40-50 years, basically since Thatcher.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're right but only because New Labour was basically Conservative.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So the same thing as the "Neo-Liberals" in the US, gotcha.

[–] Dendie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Think back to the time George W. Bush was around and we had Tony Blair and Gordon Brown - both from the Labour Party

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Blair I remember, Brown I don't. I thought Blair was a Tory.

[–] Dendie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

New Labour, so pretty close

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 3 points 11 months ago

"New Labour" as it was branded under Blair, was basically a more right leaning Labour. Brown was Chancellor to Blair and took over after his resignation, much like everyone since Cameron (who himself was initially elected as leader of a coalition to a hung parliament).

[–] Finerney@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So, voters elect Members of Parliament during general elections not a prime minister, the political party that wins the most seats in the House of Commons usually forms the government. Since we don’t elect the PM the king ‘invites’ the leader of the majority party to form a government since they’ll likely have the support of the majority portion of MPs, that person becomes the prime minister.

This leads to the slightly unusual situation where the incumbent party can essentially decide to replace the prime minister at will, this is usually accomplished by either an internal party process (1922 committee for the Conservative Party) or if the prime minister decides to ‘resign’. The incumbent party can then elect a party leader using whatever process they like iirc, once they have chosen a leader the king asks that person to become prime minister.

tl;dr the uk electorate don’t choose the prime minister directly, you elect a local MP, and the party leader of the majority party becomes PM so replacing the party leader replaces the prime minister.

ETA: the government can call a general election early and have done in the past but it’s not always in their best interest if they think they’re going to lose

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the explanation. I assume this is the compromise that England arrived at sometime around the signing of The Magna Carta?

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[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The UK. Not just England