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Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Your source is the IDF?

Seriously?

Fuck, why not just source Alex Jones too?

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You are extremely delusional to believe that the idf is equivalent to alex jones in terms of veracity. And just to make it clear, the idf is also more honest than hamas

Edit: also nice anti semitism by equating an israeli defense force to one of the most conspiracy addled anti semitic people out of there

[–] YeeterPan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I trust the IDF about as far as I can throw Alex Jones, so 🤷‍♂️

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The idf is the most reliable source of information there. You might as well not believe or comment on the conflict at all if you don’t trust any IDF correspondence

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of the worlds media has cast doubt on IDF statements. I trust them more than the IDF

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

When the world media is citing hamas, then no.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey everybody are y'all seeing this shit?

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doesnt matter what anyone here thinks. The truth can be unpopular. Israel will continue defending itself, and yall cant do shit to stop it. Keep crying because the terrorists that you support keep losing.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha you stupid zionist piece of shit! Thanks for proving my point

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I proved that hamas are terrorists that you support? Thanks I guess.

Only stupid people believe terrorists over established intelligence allies.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believing the IDF in Gaza is like believing the CIA in Central America

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The CIA was toppling democratically elected governments. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hasn't held a vote in two decades. no equivalence unless you believe all "underdogs" are equivalent.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're an idiot if you think that criticism of Biibi or IDF actions equates to supporting Hamas. I get that you like one side of the conflict but don't assume that because others dislike the mass killing of civilians that means that they support terrorists.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

You’re an idiot if you think that criticism of Biibi or IDF actions equates to supporting Hamas

Then I am not an idiot. Thank you.

Bibi needs criticism. Let's not elevate Hamas as resistance fighters tho.

You are an idiot if you are denying some of the very real anti semitism coming from the left now. Jews should be allowed to be Jews and have that independent from the israeli-palestinian confilct.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Care to show me where I elevated Hamas or denied anti-antisemitism from any quarter at all?

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks to you bunch of clowns the word anti-Semitism doesn't even have a meaning anymore. The moment someone calls me or anyone else in anti-semite I just assume that they're a lying sack of shit.

An Israeli complaining about anti-semitism and a fascist complaining about censorship are the exact same thing.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am not israeli lmao. I am not even jewish. I am actually of muslim and catholic descent. I just have a brain and recognize the obvious anti semitism from the left.

If we were criticizing only idf, then sure. Why is the left protesting jewish restaurants in philly and nyc?

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know maybe you should ask them

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Progressive leftists have some issues with antii semitism if they are protesting random jews on behalf of palestine. Immediately obvious

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like some conditions that you made up.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

happened in philly and nyc at random jewish restaurants...

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So what? Why should I care if a few idiots allegedly do stupid shit? The subject here is your fascist government's IDF creating pro-genocidal propaganda.

Fascists like you always be gish-galloping and deflecting to irrelevant topics.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow so now you're literally just making up accusations out of thin air. Typical zionist nazi

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now you pretend like the left wasnt ok with protesting random jews in the usa lol.

Zionist nazi… lmao. I am not even jewish.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But you are supporting fascist ideology and propaganda.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

i don't support hamas unlike ya tho