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Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 236 points 11 months ago (1 children)

got it wrong

No? No they got exactly what they wanted. They'll be able to annex all of Gaza and eventually the west bank.

They sacrificed their people to accomplish their colonist goals.The plan went swimmingly.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 99 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Correct, which is exactly the same thing the Zionist Federation of Germany did during WWII. They sold out their own people in order to keep much of their assets while beginning the process of annexing British Mandatory Palestine.

Make no mistake, these same Zionists went on to form Lehi, among other terrorist/militant organizations that share a direct link to modern day Likud. Every policy the modern right wing Israeli government has employed they borrowed directly from the Third Reich's playbook.

They are literally genocidal, ethno-supremacist, crypto-fascist psycopaths. In no way is that hyperbole. They are essentially Israeli Nazi's.

Haavara Agreement
Lehi
Irgun
Haganah

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gonna look into this myself later, but I hope you're lying. That would be some fucked up shit

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Go read that Wikipedia information I linked. This isn't some rabbit hole conspiracy theory. There were multiple attempts by Zionist militant groups (including Lehi) to actively align with Nazi Germany against Britain during WWII. The context is more nuanced than what I am going to be able to explain in a comment here, but I encourage you to research the inter-war period of British Mandatory Palestine that lead up to the modern Israeli state.

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Reading though it now and you're pretty spot on. Obviously there's a lot more nuance, but seeking an alliance with literal Nazis isn't a good look.

Btw, your link to Lehi is broken.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you mind pointing out where "the Zionist Federation of Germany sold out their own people to keep their assets" ?

Regarding the nuance it's not unimportant that Lehi was an offshoot of an offshoot and certainly not representative for the entire Yishuv. They were sentenced for their actions (but later pardonned).

In '40-'42 no on knew who was going to come out victorious, so different factions were betting either on both horses. The mufti of Jerusalem, for example, was going all in for the nazi's. And a lot of Arab nationalists actually preferred Germany over the British which they hated for letting in (jewish) immigrants.

[–] sigmund@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it, one Lehi leader (Yitzhak Shamir) went on to become Israel's PM for two terms. He also approved the assassination of Folke Bernadotte, a Swedish diplomat working to negotiate peace in the region.

It's clear they had influence in post-WW2 Israel.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They sure did, they tried to rehabilitate them. Yithzak Rabin was part of a terrorist group as well, went on to serve as PM for two terms, and was assassinated for working towards a two state solution...

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who? The Palmach? At least they didn't try to ally with the Nazis like Lehi.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

... Or the arab Palestinians

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I believe they're talking about the Haavara agreement. From my understanding the Jewish community worldwide was boycotting Nazi Germany by not doing business with them, and the Haavara agreement was seen as cooperation with the Nazis and their anti-Semitic policy.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

That agreement was about paying nazi Germany to facilitate migration to Israel. But riccosuave is making a comparison with Bibi sacrificing a few thousand of his citizens to create a casus belli. So I guess/hope he's talking about something else?

I love that "pointing out undisputed historical facts that are provable and verified through many sources" often gets met with "quit with the crazy conspiracy theories and anti-______-ism", regardless of which group you are apparently making conspiracy theories about.