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American Israeli Exceptionalism (beehaw.org)

submitted 11 months ago by TheSean@beehaw.org to c/humor@beehaw.org

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[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mondoweiss literally cites Electronic Intifada as one of their sources. That is an unbelievably unreliable and biased source.

Even this article however does at no point support your claim that Israel intentionally killed their own people.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most recently, Nir Hasson returned to Be’eri and interviewed a local resident named Tuval, who was lucky to be away from the kibbutz at the time of the attack but whose partner was killed. In Hasson’s October 20 Haaretz article, he reports:

“His voice trembles when his partner, who was besieged in her home shelter at the time, comes to mind. According to him, only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions — including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages — did the IDF complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

I guess you can verify from the Haaretz article whether this is correct or not.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where in all of this is the IDF intentionally killing their own people? You have not provided anything that supports this claim.

Why on Earth would they be doing that in the first place? That would be comic book level of evil, just utterly absurd for the conscription army of a democracy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They bombed Hamas soldiers who were holing up in hostages' homes. Intentionally.

According to him, only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions — including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages — did the IDF complete the takeover of the kibbutz.

[–] imalemmy@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jesus you don't even hear your own point moving a million miles an hour do you?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

This is exactly what I said at first. The hostages were in their homes when they were bombed, if that part wasn't clear.