326
Video shows stripped Palestinian men detained in Gaza
(www.bbc.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2023
326 points (92.2% liked)
World News
38691 readers
2656 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Do we know whether those are civilians or Hamas members? IDF tells those are terrorists, al jazeera says the right opposite. None of them can be considered trustworthy, so that’s why I am asking whether someone knows more.
It doesn't matter. Prisoners are out of the fight and should be treated humanely. Putting hoods on them and tying them up are control measures. Keeping their clothes is just a form of humiliation torture.
so even taking some clothes off can be understandable because there is a suspicions they have bombs tied to them. However, you can do one check and then give them the clothes back.
Yes, the fact that they are all sat down with no clothes is very wrong. They should have had their clothes returned.
Just a correction, they weren't "sat down". They were forced on their knees. It just gets uglier and uglier.
The people released so far were civilians and reported other civilians and family members bought* there. One is a journalist, not released yet, no idea where he is. They are in undisclosed locations and their families don't even know. No weapons were found or ceased. The IDF itself says they took them purely for being Palestinian men in the north. They pulled them directly from a refugee camp where families were sheltering. The women there were threatened at gunpoint. They didn't "surrender".
Edit: typo.
That’s honestly sad. I understand the need to check whether they don't have weapons but tying them like this is too much. And then even the recording screams, "see how we dehumanize them."
I mean, it literally violates the Geneva convention on POWs, even if they are Hamas it's literally immoral either way
I expect Hamas does the same but also you should never drop to Hamas's level.
fundamentally "but X does it too" is a whataboutism, Germany did the holocaust, does that mean we should have put the Germans in camps?
Exactly, hence why answer is formulated in a way that we should not drop to others' level and do something bad because others are doing something bar, as well.
well since the Israeli government was doing it first, you could argue that Hamas is the one stooping down to their level, since the occupation and mistreatment of Palestinians in Gaza predates Hamas
As much as Hamas sucks, no, only Israel has a proven track record of stripping men and women and others detained with no charge whatsoever and leaving them or humiliating them in prison.