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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Good. There's no good reason to burn books. Free speech doesn't require absolutism, it requires that we are capable of expressing our ideas. Yelling the N word doesn't express an idea, it's just offense. Ditto book burning. People who are absolutists are pretty much always being assholes.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (20 children)

Burning other people's books is of course bad. Burning your own books? Idk man, you bought it.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If I build my own cross and burn it in front of your house, that's cool then? I don't think it's quite as simple as you imply

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Like I said in the other comment, the ban isn't on instigating, it's on burning a book. Also idgaf about the cross

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, since you would be in the street and probably get hit by a vehicle. That would be hilarious. Please do this. Please setup a cross right in the street in front of my house to make your point and get struck by a truck.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Way to completely miss the point

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I got your point, such as it is, and it was so clearly bad that mocking it seemed appropriate. There is a difference between targetted harassment of an individual who is a member of the general public and attacking skydaddy. One is a crime with a victim you can identify and the other (like all blasphemy) is a victimless crime. If Allah were real, and not just a plagiarism run through the mind of a warlord genocidal pedophile, it could not be harmed. It could not be afraid. It could not even be resisted. A human can't harm a god, a human can easily hurt a human.

Your entire attempt at comparison was not even worthy of this comment as it was so wrong. If you compared a sneeze to a supernova it would have been closer to comparing fictional Allah to a human. Blasphemy can never ever ever be a crime with a victim.

Now go burn a cross in front of my house, but please make sure to wait a bit as there is still some daylight. I want it to be nice and dark.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The argument I was making was pretty much the kind of reasoning that the Danes are using in their law making. I don't know why you bother even discussing these issues when you are incapable or unwilling of even think about their reasons. Enjoy fighting strawmen.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Congrats on repeating at repeating a bad comparison. Truly the greatest achievement of all time

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You've gone through and responded to each of my posts with accusations and deliberate misundersndings (unless you're genuinely incapable of listening). You seem obsessive. I don't get your attitude. I talk about things to try to communicate. You seem to want to score points. I'm done with this. I do t see the point of communicating like this.

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[–] Silejonu@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

Blasphemy and racism are two very different things.

Blasphemy is a human right.

Besides, there are already laws against hate speech.

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[–] Tranus@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Book burnings are bad when they are used to prevent the free sharing of information or ideas. It is a form of censorship. Burning the Quran is not censorship, because this is not an attempt to ban the Quran or prevent anyone from reading it. Its an entirely symbolic gesture. Its comparable to burning the American flag, which I'm guessing you're not so against.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its an entirely symbolic gesture.

And what does it symbolise?........

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That religion is dogshit and appeasement is cowardly.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Appease these nuts 🤣

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[–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

I absolutely agree.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree but I feel like they should just ban publicly burning books for reasons other than waste disposal. I think it's weird to make an exception for one particular religious book

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They didn't. It's for all religious texts

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Burning religious texts makes skydaddy sad?

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You seem determined to be a dick and not bother to understand what people are saying. I don't see the point, but you do you