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[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't think Vader is idolized because of his morals, it's because his character is cool.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think of it kind of like D&D alignment, but with cool instead of lawful.

Cool good: Han Solo
Cool neutral: Boba Fett
Cool evil: Darth Vader
Meh good: Admiral Ackbar
Meh neutral: Jawas
Meh evil: Moff Tarkin
Uncool good: Uncle Owen
Uncool neutral: that droid that's just a box on legs
Uncool evil: Jaba the Hutt

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

that droid that’s just a box on legs

GONK!

[–] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

This comment made my day

[–] loki_d20@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same result in the end, IMHO, as it leads to reinterpretations based on the love of the character.

I think Alan Moore said it best: https://screenrant.com/alan-moore-on-rorschach-fans-watchmen/

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's an interesting point that would be nice to see addressed more in anti-superhero fiction, like The Boys. They addressed this problem to some extent with the Rorschach depiction in the Watchmen TV series.

Feels like Rick and Morty has had the same issue with people idolizing Rick. They have addressed it to some degree by showing how Rick's bad qualities also make him miserable etc.