this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
-33 points (39.9% liked)
Technology
59377 readers
6811 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
If signal can collapse because of a single contributor withdrawing support, then it kind of deserves to die. If It's not robust enough to withstand the lack of money, it would never stand up to government intervention.
Though I suspect signal is perfectly fine, this is just an outrage seeking article for clicks. Or unnecessary conspiracy. If you don't trust signal, you have other options like simple x, briar.....
Intentional conspiracy, judging by who the author writes for
It's a good thought experiment. Let's assume signal is a conspiracy.
What do we do now?
The article doesn't seem to have any thesis here. If signal becomes untenable:
Briar and simple x are the most promising in my mind, but I know there's a lot of proponents of matrix.
I personally don't think session is sustainable, simply because they don't have any development going on, no perfect forward secrecy added.
If we're talking about the signal replacement, we need a way for people to find their contacts. A phone contact list as a social graph is pretty good. I could see that being added as a discovery, optional, service for simplex, or even briar. But that would probably take quite a bit of development of work to do it in a non-Spammy fashion
deleted
Yeah they had perfect forward secrecy when they forked from signal, and then they tore it out because it was too complex to fit in there model. That's an admission their bad programmers, and we shouldn't trust them with crypto, or nefarious and we shouldn't trust them with crypto.
Going back to what's next:
Contact Discovery is the major hurdle to adoption of any really secure platform. I do appreciate signals SGX enclaves, they solve the problem in a nice way... If you trust SGX enclaves. That being said, that's not the only way to do it. Though I can't think of many contact discovery mechanisms that don't rely on a central source of truth. Maybe that's the necessary evil for onboarding, but it doesn't have to be part of the day-to-day operations.