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[–] Prometheus@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The explanation I've always heard was that it was his response to otakus jerking off to anime characters. I.e. women who can't hurt you with rejection. This is who he sees them as.

From an article in which he is interviewed:

Anno understands the Japanese national attraction to characters like Rei as the product of a stunted imaginative landscape born of Japan’s defeat in the Second World War. “Japan lost the war to the Americans,” he explains, seeming interested in his own words for the first time during our interview. “Since that time, the education we received is not one that creates adults. Even for us, people in their 40s, and for the generation older than me, in their 50s and 60s, there’s no reasonable model of what an adult should be like.” The theory that Japan’s defeat stripped the country of its independence and led to the creation of a nation of permanent children, weaklings forced to live under the protection of the American Big Daddy, is widely shared by artists and intellectuals in Japan. It is also a staple of popular cartoons, many of which feature a well-meaning government that turns out to be a facade concealing sinister and more powerful forces.

Anno pauses for a moment, and gives a dark-browed stare out the window. “I don’t see any adults here in Japan,” he says, with a shrug. “The fact that you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything, is something you wouldn’t have seen 30 years ago, with people who grew up under a different system of government. They would have been far too embarrassed to open a book of cartoons or dirty pictures on a train. But that’s what we have now in Japan. We are a country of children.”

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Holy SHIT that is a reactionary ass take.

"Waaa we can't murder and kill people for our fascist country and that's why people read Dragon Ball in the subway." grow the fuck up dude, not a single functional adult cares about someone reading Dragon Ball in the subway.

I mean, most functional adults care about people reading pornography in the subway, but the misogynistic norms that imperial Japan ~~probably I don't know history that well~~ reproduced had a lot more to do with that being a thing than any vague non-materialistic idea that not being able to have a standing army magically lead to people acting like children.

Also who cares if they're "children", ffs. Not a remotely materially relevant thing. Just a vague distaste for someone's vibes.

[–] ksynwa_from_lemmygrad@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

“Japan lost the war to the Americans,” he explains

They lost it to China and the Soviet Union. But maybe losing the inter-imperialist rivalry hit them different.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago

The Americans occupied them and rebuilt them into the neoliberal monstrosity they are today.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The US specifically wanted to avoid the Soviets from entering the Pacific Front because they didn't want them having any possible claims to Japan and potentially having to split the land akin to Europe. Pretty quickly after the US occupation there was a sizable communist movement seeking to gain power through election where they expected the US to hold up their public statements of freedom and democracy. In the end though the US cracked down on the leadership and essentially destroyed the movement. Though pretty pathetic now, the Japanese communist party still receives a decent chunk of the vote, though obviously nothing to actually disrupt the neoliberal hell.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the US specifically asked the soviet union to enter the war in the pacific at the Yalta Conference

[–] ksynwa_from_lemmygrad@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Thanks. Didn't know this.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

The admin was still under FDR at Yalta. Truman was on a very different page than FDR about the Soviets, which led to dropping nuclear weapons to end the war before Soviets could get more involved in the Pacific

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

You missed the part where the JCP tried to start a Protracted People's War on Stalin's orders, but the completely war-weary Japanese population totally rejected them and they ended up just giving the occupiers an excuse to crack down on themselves. Basically every leftist in Japan was considered a terrorist by the average person until the 80s when enough time had passed that they could rebrand as pacifists, but by that point the political machine of the Liberal Democrats had become all-encompassing.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

i think destroying the fleet of an island nation and blockading it was pretty major when japans armies were overseas