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edit: I realize there is Office web and it's good but it has nowhere enough features. Also, do you guys think (Open, Libre, Only) office has as many features as Microsoft Excel?

I am taking business studies this year and you really do need excel for that. I can obviously use OnlyOffice Suite which is quite good and will get most of the jobs done, but it's not equivalent to MS Office suite and in business you use what's used most frequently, so yes, MS Office it is. But as much as I realize what a key role Microsoft plays in the Business, I DO NOT WANT TO PAY for it and I certainly DO NOT want to pay a subscription for it, but I want to learn it and the best way to learn is by doing it, so, I want to install MS Office Suite on Linux without actually paying for it, so how can I do it?

Skip this rant: Every freaking thing is a subscription right now, I mean, there's positives to that, but you feel like you own nothing. Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but it feels like every company took "You will own nothing and be happy" to heart. Again, subscription model has it's advantages, but I don't want to subscribe to something I know I am going to need for the foreseeable future.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OnlyOffice is designed from the ground up to be more compatible with MS document types.

I've been using it for about a year now and haven't yet experienced any compatibility issues with MS office documents.

I would guess that business excel is going to be pretty basic. You're going to learn how to create business reports like P&L statements, depreciation schedules, simple profit forecasts, and so forth. All of which should be totally possible in OnlyOffice, or LibreOffice for that matter.

Powerpoints and Word documents are even more basic and will be totally fine in OnlyOffice. I'm literally doing a presentation on cyber security for a multi-million dollar business in a few weeks that is done completely in OnlyOffice and with 100% open source software and assets, even the fonts.

If you must use MS Office for some reason, use a copy on your University's computers.

Don't fall for the propaganda, FOSS solutions like OnlyOffice and LibreOffice will work fine for 95% of people out there, probably more honestly. I used OpenOffice then LibreOffice all through late Highschool and my University studies, wrote scores of papers and a bunch of presentations, never once had any problems with features not being enough.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

FOSS solutions like OnlyOffice and LibreOffice will work fine for 95% of people out there

That's true. no doubts. However, problems may arise when you need to work collaboratively on documents with other people that mainly use MS products and won't even think to change their workflow for the sake of "freedom". Personally, I have encountered minor UX annoyances in OnlyOffice, such as the convoluted way to resize images in presentations (you need to open "Advanced Settings" every time...) and the a-bit-messy interface for equations. Another inconvenience arose when I inserted a short video in a presentation, which didn't later work (didn't even show) in PowerPoint. These aren't extremely severe issues, but may slow down productivity a bit. On the other hand, in LibreOffice Impress inline equations aren't still available, which is something that somewhat lowers its potential utility in some scientific fields. Workarounds are available, but they are obviously a bit time consuming.

I'm not complaining, mind you. I know that "free as in freedom" may come with minor inconveniences. But for a lot of people the hassle of finding/applying funny workarounds may be a big annoyance.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Very true, it people's experiences will vary. It is a tradeoff for what you are willing to put up with for the FOSS change in workflow.

I find that at work, I am often forced into and fully MS framework anyways. Not able to install any software I want, forced to use their garbage. It's really frustrating, but such is the state of things at most workplaces.

[–] Crotaro@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Aside from not having a big say in our software at work, I actually do need MS Excel a lot. I haven't found a free alternative that supports my VBA code without a really big hassle :(

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another inconvenience arose when I inserted a short video in a presentation, which didn’t later work (didn’t even show) in PowerPoint.

I had the same issue. I even tried LibreOffice in Windows, and it still didn't work.
Searching the web, I just found that it's indeed issue of Windows. Specifically, with supported video codecs.

This is one of the threads: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/portable-impress-videos-dont-play/44911

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, this is interesting. I hadn't searched for the issue because it happened during a quite confusing lecture and then forgot about it. Thanks a lot.