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[–] ziq@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Raddle has been fighting the struggle for digital autonomy for years now. Hexbear didn’t need to exist, you could have come to my site instead.

Instead, Hexbear’s founder was a mod on both r/chapotraphouse and r/moretankiechapo. He pulled a con on everyone here, I’m not surprised someone doxed him.

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the dude was an actual advocate for anarchists in a space that was very ML leaning and there's a person i strongly suspect of having doxxed him in retaliation for it. dude was looking into council communism by the end. i'm pretty critical of the politics on this site, but your sock puppet shit is exactly why a bunch of anarchists, myself included, did not feel safe going on your website, and part of the promise of hexbear was eventually federating which does a lot to hold your typically unaccountable internet moderator actually accountable to both their users and to others in general if they no longer can hold a monopoly on access to a community.

it's also why i still don't have a reason to shitpost on raddle. none of these sites are safe places to actually organize anything (and i don't think it's fair to expect them to be that), but being entirely at the mercy of a particular clique of highly sectarian "ancoms aren't anarchIst" internet mods doesn't make it an appealing social hangout space or anywhere to actually meet vaguely like-minded people.

if you've mellowed out since then that's great but like don't act like there wasn't a damn good reason people didn't want to be on your website.

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I completely agree beatnik's doxing was retaliation for him being welcoming to anarchists. But do you really think the admins on this site don't have alts after that? When we all witnessed how bad opsec combined with making enemies can lead to someone trying to destroy your life?

We should all be alternating between accounts for security reasons, especially for arguing with people... You have no idea if the person you just called a radlib is a maniac who will pick though your history to dox you, SWATT you and get you fired. But it's especially important for admins because of their high visibility.

I'm using an alt rn because I don't want raddle to come after me when I'm starting drama with them. The ziq parody you're replying to is an alt too.

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I knew about his alts, I sure as fuck wouldn't be telling people about them. Him having an alt afterwards doesn't really mitigate the loss of identity and connections that comes with having to do that, or the trauma of being jacketed like that. Some dipshit doing a bit pretending to be ziq shouldn't be able to mouth off about that without pushback.

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah I'm just saying we shouldn't be discouraging admins and mods from using alts to protect themselves. Ziq was doxed by kiwifarms, Beatnik by you know who, I think db0 got doxed too. It's much safer to use our mod/admin accounts for site operations and use alts to speak our mind so we don't get stalked by maniacs.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I completely agree beatnik's doxing was retaliation for him being welcoming to anarchists.

Really? I never heard that one before

It really came off to me as more of an attempt by rightwingers to troll CC