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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 59 points 11 months ago (8 children)
[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 62 points 11 months ago (14 children)

raddle is where like four weird lifestyle anarchists (this is code words for libertarians with left aesthetics) pretend to be a lot more than four users

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Aren't lifestylists individualists rather than on the libertarian left? Isn't that the whole reason Bookchin denounced them?

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

maybe this is a regional thing, but when I think "libertarian" with no modifiers it's weirdo american right wingers, so i'm saying these are super individualists who are opposed to collective action and just pretend to be leftist anarchists

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't raddle hate leftists though? They're pretty open about it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=50x0qcddf2k

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes but they also pretend to be them

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Someone called them out for banning leftists yesterday and got banned for it. It was hilarious: https://raddle.me/f/meta/177962/how-come-you-re-so-quick-to-ban-leftists-for-the-slightest

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[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Damn takes me back.

Just from memory, I think Raddle started as an alt-Reddit back when shitredditsays was still a thing. I remember getting an invite on the IRC.

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[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

hexbear dunking on raddle dunking on lemmy dunking on raddle astronaut-2 hesitation-2 astronaut-1

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

need to learn to leave people on read tbh lenin-sure

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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

alright, enough of this showboating, @ziq@hexbear.net let's settle this on the court, our best 3 against your best 3, street rules... unless you're chicken??

fidel-balling

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

spoilerTheir best 3 are all ziq alts.

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

This now an AMA post.

@ziq@hexbear.net, how do you feel about showering with your homies? Personally, I can't really respect a person until I've seen their hog.

e: pronoun correction

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

I went into that thread to talk to them but holy fuck, these replies are essentially demanding trans people self harm

Large concentration of trans people on hexbear just goes to show that not all queer people are cool people, and we're not automatically going to have anything more in common just by sharing a part of our identity. I don't think trans tankies are any better than cis tankies.

No you in fact do share a lot, it's been my experience overwhelmingly that our experiences are very uniform. I can talk and relate to people from all over the globe trivially, things are that shit for us everywhere. This sort of rhetoric is detrimental to the survival of the trans community, and is purely for the sake of ideology. For fucks sake, 90% of trans people are socialist. This is essentially encouraging trans people to check out of the community that helps them most (and I have had one person internalize this argument in person! It led to total self ostracization of help for ideological reasons). Sectarianism is so fuckin ridiculous, and is even more ridiculous in the trans community. In my view, it's incredibly important to have large non corporate trans spaces, it is easier to translate online activity to real world activity with trans people because we're desperate to get good things happening. This rhetoric tries to interdict that

tankies are worse because they should know better than to do around the clock propaganda for authoritarian homophobic states

Trans people get food and housing in these states, which is the biggest issue to fix in the west, based on my experience working with people. Mutual aid and charity have unfortunately been unable to tackle this completely, and regardless, the rhetoric before interdicts even anarchist mutual aid

most people have no authority-consciousness but marginalized people absolutely do, and yet some of us choose to use that consciousness to push for more authority, convinced stalin 2.0 is going to liberate us. it's obscene

Specters still haunting

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

not all queer people are cool people,

Norman Finkelstein is right? apparently radlibs really do only care about LGBT for building their social capital as fashionable

I don't think trans tankies are any better than cis tankies.

sicko-fem

convinced stalin 2.0 is going to liberate us. it's obscene

lol how's your "liberatory free markets" doing in Ukraine after leftoids heroically SMASHED THE STALINIST STATE in the 2014 coup? Remember that psychotic genocidal trans who was fired for being too mask off in their obscenity? Hmm

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[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

so ziq's in that thread mocking db0 and calling them a tankie, isn't db0 an anarchist / anarchist adjacent(?)

[–] saladpresser@hexbear.net 52 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Apparently anarcho-lifestylists think ancoms are secret tankies or something. You can see their feud start here: https://raddle.me/f/Anarchism/81827/how-anarcho-communism-would-create-authority

Highlight: Db0 calls ziq an authoritarian for opposing democracy.

It was then turned into an even bigger anti-ancom rant:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-burn-the-bread-book-make-anarchy

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fucking called it, the tankie hate is just anti-leftism

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[–] fox@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

Dunking this, dunking that, how about we all dunk some Oreos in milk and have a nice day

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Always fun to go on Raddle and read a conversation between ziq and their many alts

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

Ziq is they them from what someone said here

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

Corrected. Also makes sense considering all the sockpuppet accounts

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[–] PaX@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Lmao

I've been too busy working the past few days to keep up with online drama

I'm fucking tired but it's cool I made the even more terminally online "leftists" at raddle mad hehehe

Would it be too online of me to write a response?

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 24 points 11 months ago

Can this "struggle session" (if I'm allowed to use that phrase) spread to even more websites? Maybe all the way to facebook? Then my dad could weigh in, he would have a good time.

[–] davel@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago
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