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US House speaker to make good on promise to far-right Republicans including Matt Gaetz and Donald Trump

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They intentionally weren't in place the first time thanks to Trump. They will be from Biden. If Trump wins again, he won't rely on this Hail Mary method again. He'll seize power a different way.

*I'm not saying it's good to release them, I just can't see all that much coming from it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh. there will be changes, sure. nat guard will be in place. they'll probably have insurmountable fencing instead of the stupid event-crowd-control stuff; they'll probably have more bodies actually on duty, etc.

most of the reasons you don't want to release the tapes remain the same- especially evacuation routes and shelters. Would a second attempt be successful? probably not. but that's why they want it- and why we shouldn't give it to them.

I do think you give Trump too much credit. he doesn't care how many people he gets killed as long as he gets power. and he's not exactly... intelligent.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I agree you don't want to compromise any security info, but this is the last, last, last, last line of defence. If it gets to that point you had several colossal fuck ups that all aligned. What happened on Jan 6 was an ad hoc defence from the scattered mess that happened to be around (and which did not actively open the doors to "protestors").

I edited my first comment, you have FBI operations, wire tapping, infiltrations, etc. Security starts way before it gets to the Capitol grounds.

As for Trump, he'll start the hunt way before Jan 6.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your logic is like a like that of a Bond villain. Sure I revealed the evil plan to the one guy who can stop me, but he was totally tied to a laser beam table about to be sawed in half. But what ends up happening every time? The guy gets out of the laser beam table and stops the villain's plans, none of which would've been known if they would've just shut up.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's more like knowing there are layers. It's like a construction hard hat being the absolute last safety measure, not the first. It won't save you from a huge beam falling on your head. Instead you have safety plans to make sure that doesn't happen in the first place.

What revealed here is like an ad hoc hard hat. It's not the layers and layers of security before that.