Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today !memes@lemmy.ml was popping off with a lot of "No war but class war" memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.
I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)
Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.
How? What's the logic here?
If we're not going to engage on social issues, the default outcome will be letting the right-wing culture warriors drag us back to 1800.
So the snidely whiplash guy believes that class war doesn't include social issues? That seems like a tenuous conclusion.
White saviour conservative fred is an odd choice as champion of social justice.
Great explanation, by the way.
The phrase "no war but class war" is frequently brought up when people are getting into a heated argument about social issues. The idea being "hey, the capitalist class wants the working class fighting among themselves, that's why they stoke these culture war issues. Don't let them."
Which is a perfectly reasonable response in theory, except when you consider that the "culture war" is an entirely one-sided affair where one side just wants to live their lives as they are, and the other side is attacking them for that and saying they don't have the right to exist.
Yeah, their version of "Stop the culture war" isn't "Stop attacking vulnerable groups and focus on the bigger threat" it's "Stop fighting back and let us destroy these vulnerable groups and focus on those people instead". It's just an attempt to distract.
Seems like a reasonable practical response too.
Your bipolar reduction of the culture war makes as much sense to me as a righteous argument against equality via class cohesion as the meme.
Toxic capitalists do want the working class weak and divided, that's historically accurate.
I understand that this is a meme and you're just trying to make it simple, but it doesn't add up and making Fred the protagonist further muddies the waters.
Class is where the power against this is exerted from, not the capitalist system adopting notions of it that don't threaten the economic arrangement, which is generally the ground the "culture war" fights on right now because there is no political power from the left in the US. The capitalist system adopting DEI for instance, like okay we can all be exploited equally, it's easy to see the fairness in that and support the idea one group shouldn't be favored above another. However the idea that the best people from each identity group get to have the best stuff isn't doing anything in relation to income inequality, it's a very reactionary notion of these ideas which in practice perpetuates the system that itself produces the disparities. Seeing this as a class issue and brining class to the table, without any way to exert political power in the US, is right now the job of the individual leftists.