this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2023
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Hey everyone, since total cumulative donations for the last 3 months were less than $200 (~ $60/month), even though PornLemmy has an average of 250k uniques per month with peaks of 300k+, I have dropped plans for improvements (new frontend + backend tweaking) and will only spend $60/month worth of time and resources on PL. I won't put ads or gather personal data for profit, but I am open to selling to someone who will. Imagining zero growth, I'm targeting an ARPU of $0.005 amortized over one year, BTC. You can contact me at pornlemmy@gmx.com .

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[–] alex@pornlemmy.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

saying “donations aren’t enough to purchase my time” indicates a whole other motivation that’s inherently counter productive to the platform IMHO.

I’m sure you have your reasons, but the post is kinda snobby about it.

Here's a lightbulb moment: stuff costs money and time, even if it's on the internet. Whatever you get for free isn't free - either you pay to get something from a provider, or the provider makes money off you in some way. I don't want to go the second route, and the 250k visitors have voted with their wallets so the first route is closed. Do you feel in some way entitled to my and PL's team time and resources? Have you contributed in any way to PL, financially or otherwise, so you can have a little say of its future? Or is this a "Entertain me, peasants" mentality?

[–] appropriateinside@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's a lightbulb moment: stuff costs money and time, even if it's on the internet. Whatever you get for free

Alex. It's entirely unnecessary to be this hostile. I host websites, services, and build software for a living. I'm well aware of the time & resource costs of doing this... I made no claim otherwise.

I clearly approached this with good faith, asking specific, pointed, questions to surface important facts about this instance. NONE of these where answered or addressed.

I offhandedly mentioned the taste of the posts tone, and moved on saying "You probably have your reasons" to indicate I'm not attacking you. It's just my opinion, and moved on.

Do you feel in some way entitled to my and PL's team time and resources? Have you contributed in any way to PL, financially or otherwise, so you can have a little say of its future? Or is this a "Entertain me, peasants" mentality?

  • Nowhere did I make any claims of entitlement.
  • Nowhere did I complain about the content.
  • Nowhere did I attack, discredit, or trivialize the resource it takes to run the instance.

You're attacking ghosts and lashing out at me. I understand you probably have gotten a lot of flak running an instance, but that's no reason to be so hostile and insulting.

Especially if you're goal is to actually sell the thing.


The important thing here, the bulk of my previous comment, is what matters. Do you have additional information for those questions?

If you're serious about offloading this instance, then lets focus on the things that matter here, which are the facts about the instance, not the egos?

How it this measured? How is it trending? What is the actual dollar value you are evaluating this at? What are the operating costs?