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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

How did a nation of colonized people who threw off the shackles of their oppressors end up becoming such huge simps for imperialism

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

I'm told by an Indian comrade that much of the media class and the bourgeoisie are still educated in England and the US, giving the UK and US a great deal of influence over the comprador ruling class.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that "throwing off the shackles" was moreso in actuality a mediated transition into neocolonial status with a western-friendly comprador class in charge. You see this in many "former colonies" that just so happen to be completely dominated by the "former colonizers". In Africa, up until very recently, France still controlled massive sections of the continent indirectly via economic and diplomatic coercion and france-friendly puppet dictators.

Not every "independence" is created equal. Some nations truly gain independence and forge their own path, such as Cuba and China, but even they still have to deal with a lot of contradictions dealing with economic ties to their former colonizers.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ah yes. China, where the new Govt is even more imperialist and fucked up then any other govt.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. China, where the new Govt is even more imperialist and fucked up then any other govt.

citations-needed

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

....more imperialist than Imperial China? Hell, even the ROC held more territory than the PRC. Taiwan literally claims more land than the mainland currently occupies, such as the entirety of Mongolia.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Taiwan's claimed airspace also extends deep into mainland China so I'm not sure why anyone takes their claims seriously

[–] refolde@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, another lost lemmitor

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

lemdro.id? more like westo.id

[–] isa41@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Any person who thinks China is imperialist either A) Doesn't know what imperialism is, B) Believes silly lies about China that are easily and readily proven false, or C) Are themselves the ones spreading those lies for ideological reasons.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's 200 million Muslims in India, they tend to be pretty pro-Palestine from what I've heard?

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

State aided Islamophobic propaganda

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the upper class still speak English

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Not just the upper class, most of their college educated population speaks English fluently. Although that is a minority of their total population, it is still over 80 million people.

[–] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did a nation of people who survived the holocaust turn around and do an ethnic cleansing?

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

This gets even trickier when you dig into contemporary documents where the founding Zionists discuss their ongoing support of the third reich

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Social Democracy.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

As with most things, it is the fault of the British