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Norway’s prime minister says the Israeli army’s response to the deadly Hamas attack that killed 1,400 people and saw over 230 abducted by terrorists has been disproportionate, and denounces a “catastrophic” humanitarian situation in Gaza.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 298 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (50 children)

The comments on that article are really missing the point that leveling a city block to kill a few terrorists almost invariably means you created more terrorists than you killed.

[–] sab@kbin.social 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I'm not so sure they're missing the point. I'm afraid there's quite a few people who are just excited to see their scheduled genocide put into motion.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Far too many people seem to be itching to find an enemy, all so they can justify their desire for vindictive bloodlust.

Killing is a bad thing, and can only ever be justified when it prevents something worse. But that doesn't mean you should enjoy it.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Far too many people seem to be itching to find an enemy, all so they can justify their desire for vindictive bloodlust.

Finding an enemy, anyone, to rally angry and hate-fueled people has been a solid political staple for at least the last decade or so. The only "new"-ish part is that a lot of people are dying as a direct result of that now.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 year ago

They know this, that's the point, they want a biting dog that you can euthanize instead of the calm golden lab everyone will be upset with you for putting down

[–] donuts@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah...

The ultimate tragedy of the last few weeks is that the average Israeli will only be more radicalized against Palestine, while the average Palestinian will only be more radicalized against Israel. It's a perpetual cycle of anger and violence that has no end in sight, and I don't feel any hope for a better future for the region and the innocent people on either side of the conflict.

What should have happened, like yesterday, should be obvious to anyone with a brain and a heart: Hamas should free all of their hostages and turn over anybody who participated in the terrorist attack on Israeli civilians, and Israel should cease fire immediately, call all settlers back and return the Gaza borders back to what they were a month ago. Terrorism and genocide are inexcusable, and the simple fact is that both sides have the blood of the innocent on their hands, all because of the politics of greed.

[–] Browning@lemmings.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is much more Israel should be doing. Not least is allowing travel between Gaza and the West Bank.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are a far cry from free travel between Gaza and the West Bank.

The likelihood of that is lower now than it's ever been.

[–] Browning@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

We shouldn't be.
The only solution to the region is a Palestine that is prosperous and free. So long as people have nothing to lose, they will continue laying down their lives.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Neither Hamas nor the Israeli government want peace. They're not going to try to fix a situation neither sees as a problem.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Like in any war of occupation: the ever more militarized government of the occupier and the ever more militarized force of the occupied are objective allies.

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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Wow you must have like, really smart

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[–] logi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is certainly one point and how we are, still Here after decades. Another point is that if you do that, you have become the bad guy.

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/middleeast/satellite-images-gaza-destruction/index.html

It's really insane and the comparison pics are from over a week ago now.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I think they don't mind if everyone in Gaza dies.

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