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Is this another dumb fad thing like avoiding carbs or gluten or whatever? I haven't heard about this one.
Yeah, it's the hottest new excuse to be a dick to waiters and give yourself an eating disorder
garçon! there is bread inside my bread!
It's the newest conservative health fad
Isn't this just a soy hate makeover?
I think so, my guess is that this is a strategy to bridge the gap between the terminally online right-wingers, and the bow-tie wearers who love science and calipers.
Avoiding gluten isn't a dumb fad, some people have a gluten intolerance. That's like saying it's a dumb fad for lactose intolerant people to avoid eating dairy.
There is the population of health weirdos that insist that gluten is just evil and got enough mainstream traction for enough time that people that couldn't actually digest gluten finally got some love and now gluten free options are more abundant.
Yeah, it's a health fad. The current trend amongst health quacks is to decry plants as toxic and to insist that you should be eating more and more animal products. The concern with seed oils is that they're processed unnaturally and mess with your blood sugar levels in unhealthy ways, so you should be eating a full stick of 100% Grass Fed Organic Butter every day instead
We are going to look back and laugh at how people said with a straight face that burgers are a superfood and vegetables are bad for you. It's like an 8 year old boy doing wishful thinking. It's pretty blatant that they are pure beef shills.
My evidence? Blue Zones, a current hub-bub among libs. Literally most of them have in common with eating mostly plants, and on the rare occasion they do eat meat, it's usually grilled fish or skinless chicken.
Ah so it's just an extension of the J.Peterson grift then. I thought they got over the butter in coffee stuff already.
Lol and like butter isn't processed by churning and fermentation. About just as much as your average rapeseed oil where the seeds just basically get pressed afaik. But if they want to find ways to justify endless meat and dairy consumption this does work for that.
Making people like this understand that chopping = processed is never going to happen.
Legitimately not a terrible idea to stay away from carbohydrates and concentrated sugars if you're trying to control your weight. They're rich in calories and if you're not super active (ie, spending most of your time in an office chair or a car seat) then you're going to end up storing more and more of the excess as fat over time.
But like all fad health advice, the argument is always in favor of extremes. Total abstinence is easier to quantify than calorie counting. A very strict and limited diet is easier to implement than a broad conscientious attitude towards food. And when you're told that "model physique" is the only healthy lifestyle, you're always going to be struggling towards a goal that largely fell out of reach after you exited your 20s (if it was ever attainable at all).
Should also be noted that we're inundated with carbs and sugars because they're cheaper to manufacture, preserve, and transport than alternatives. So a lot of this health advice does ultimately boil down to "spend more money/time on food".
Some people are however always fat regardless of what they eat or don't. It's also not just about cico or activity level.
Maybe don't mix healthy with bodyweight at all. Healthism is a neoliberal concept, there is only so much anyone can control their health by food choice. Also carbs as such are a staple of the human diet and always have been.
Sure. Even then, there's degrees and habits that curb/exacerbate the issue. The 64oz Big Gulp isn't doing anyone any favors, except the folks profiting off of sugar-water as a meal substitute.
Individualism is neoliberal, particularly in an economy that is constantly trying to nudge you into the most self-destructive decisions. But people still need health education. They need a material understanding of what their needs are and when a craving is productive or destructive. They need both medical professionals to guide them and sufficient autonomy to make informed decisions.
Carbs are a staple because they're cheap to manufacture, easy to store, and calorie dense. These yield economic benefits, but they can produce health problems as collateral. Case in point, you can track the rise in consumption of grains neatly with the rise in all sorts of dental problems in human populations.
We've also become significantly more sedentary over the last century. We have a host of tools for growing, transporting, and preserving foods year round that humans haven't always enjoyed. So a calorie rich diet that stores well isn't our primary concern anymore.