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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Omg just be a browser please. Desktop PWAs are still not a feature in Firefox. Search input elements still don't have a native "clear" button. Hardware acceleration on Linux is only like a year old feature. Etc.

I love you Firefox, but you're losing focus. If I wanted built-in gimmicks I'd use Edge (okay probably not but you get the idea)

[–] java@beehaw.org 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'd argue that fact checking can be more important today than anything that you've mentioned. Modern problems require modern solutions and it's natural that browsers extend their feature sets. I'd agree with you had they announced that they were planning to merge Firefox and Thunderbird.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it would be fine as an official extension. Shipping it built-in feels weird to me.

[–] java@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Each step reduces the amount of users who could use the feature. If they think this feature is important, it makes sense to include it with the browser.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Bloat goes in extensions.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that fact checking is important, but disagree it should be a core function of a web browser.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think you mean a web curator. Browsing is dangerous!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you suppose there are any dangers to fact checking as a practice?

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

This is just bloatware. An extension is the place for stuff not everyone will need or use.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Do you need a clear button when you can just ctrl+A?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Also there’s extensions. This kind of thing seems like it should be an extension.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

PWAs are bloat. I want a browser to do webpages not turn webpages into apps.

[–] Rekliner@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

PWAs are great. Half the apps in app stores are just packaged browsers, we should take away the need for that bloat...using the engine of your choice would be a bonus. Plus they create the option of skipping app stores entirely, which is another step away from the Google/Apple oligopoly.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When the options are "install" as a PWA or download a bloated Electron app, I'm going with the PWA. Every time. :shrug: It would just be nice to be able to do that in FF without any kind of 3rd party helpers.

[–] neoney@lemmy.neoney.dev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d rather use a PWA that uses my firefox install than use an electron app which bundles chromium. And PWAs are standard, and can work on mobile too…

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, apps that use electron are rubbish too :)

[–] neoney@lemmy.neoney.dev 4 points 1 year ago

They are, but PWAs are slightly less

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I currently install chromium on my systems additionally to Firefox, just to be able to use PWAs. PWAs are supported on Firefox Android anyway so I have no idea why they removed the little amount of support they had a year or so ago.

[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

PWAs are available on mobile, where it makes the most sense from the user perspective.

If you want this functionality on the desktop, there's a tool for that as well.

https://github.com/filips123/PWAsForFirefox

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Search input elements still don't have a native "clear" button

JFC that's been a thing in webkit for nearly 2 decades