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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't the IDF already kill the 1,500 or so terrorists who did this?

What reason do we have to believe that the thousands of people who are currently getting bombed had anything to do with this at all, beyond having the misfortune of living in Gaza?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that hostages are in Gaza, so obviously a significant number of the raiders were able to make it back with those poor folks in tow

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The current estimates are between 100 and 150 hostages. A single armed person can transport several unarmed hostages. They'll be tied up and consist mostly of people who don't put up much resistance (since those people tend to get killed rather than taken hostage).

Even if we're generous and assume one guard per hostage, that's at most 150 terrorists that made it back to Gaza.

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just answering to the first question: As of today, according to Israeli media, that number is quite off.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't been able to find new numbers today. A bunch of articles restating the number of Israelis killed by Hamas and a few talking about estimates for numbers killed in Gaza but I haven't found updated info on how many of the Hamas terrorists died in Israel.

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the fact that most of them went back to Gaza makes me doubt that previously quoted number.

In any case, I hope Hamas gets an obliterating hit and can't recover, and that Israel remembers that not all Gaza is Hamas, so this is over as soon as possible with no more innocent lives lost.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the fact that most of them went back to Gaza

They did? I hadn’t read that. Do you know where I can learn more about that?

[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Don't remember right now. Been reading a couple of Israeli news sites in English, al-Jazeera, and some other news sites, so whatever I say to you now might be misguided. Anyway, as far as I recall right now it wasn't speculation.