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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One simple rule to achieve peace and stability is diplomatic talk.

Yeah if it was that simple the region would have peace already. Israel has never seriously considered peace as anything than something to avoid. See: How they funded Hamas in the 90s to take steam out of the Palestinian peace movement.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas didnt even exist when Israel funded Mosques and Charity work.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think that's going to make a difference? People don't even take a moment to parse that fully 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab, that those Arabs didn't have their land stolen, and that the reason they are in Israel is because they didn't listen to the propaganda of the Arab League that they needed to flee because Israel was going to kill them all/make it more convenient for the Arab League to kill all the Jews. No one gives a fuck about actual rich history, the role Arabs played in fucking over their own ethnic group time and again, or that the vast majority of Arab Israelis want fuck-all to do with Palestine except occasionally visit extended family members and then GTFO of the corrupt hellhole that is Gaza (while having legit gripes with how the Israeli state operates).

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

they didn't listen to the propaganda of the Arab League that they needed to flee because Israel was going to kill them all

Doesn't seem like they were wrong...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

You should look up Benny Morris (an Israeli Zionist historian)'s four-stage analysis of the Palestinian diaspora before saying shit like this.

[–] nakal@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I don't really want to comment on that. I feel like I am not qualified to judge about the complex problems in this region.

I see a reflex by some people pointing out that Palestinians are victims. But that does justify to take revenge in this way. This action will prolonge the hatred on both side and the entire situation even further. No one should support Hamas in this case.