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Entire settlements have been burned to the ground, the population murdered and kidnapped. This will end now, and it will end violently, there is no other way. Hamas is the governing body of the failed autonomous region of gaza and now they will pay the price for starting a war.
Palestinians are going to suffer for what Hamas has started. And doubt very much that the common Palestinian wanted this. However, Israel's bombing of civilian infrastructures in Gaza is only going to perpetuate this violence.
Nobody wins in this conflict. But, it would be a big win for the region if Nethnyahu and his party were removed and replaced with a peace seeking parliament that could turn things around.
It could well be the end of Palestine. I hardly see Netanyahoo stopping until Hamas is completely wiped out. Israel is on a warpath now, and any civilian human shields Hamas tries to put in the way are going to be destroyed as well because Israel DGAF now.
In the end, Israel is going to commit more atrocities than Hamas in total. And by that point there may not be a Palestine left.
I'm worried about how many civilian casualties there will be
from what i know about the Conflict and the current Israeli Government and Military, there will be massive retaliations against the Palestine Populations everywhere ensuring that no Wounds get mended, instead new ones get opened and this conflict continues on forever.
Depends on how far Israel goes. Because no matter how far they go no one will lift a finger to stop them. We will see the hardest of hardliners get a say.
Every day for decades Israelis have been destroying Palestinian villages and killing or injuring innocent Palestinians.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/3/3/israeli-settler-attacks-against-palestinians-by-the-numbers
How would you feel if Israelis burnt your toddler to death?
https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-palestinian-child-burnt-to-death-20150730-story.html
Israel is the oppressor, they are the only side who has the power to end this situation and give the Palestinians back their freedom instead of murdering them in ghettos.
For peace you need two sides at the table, and both sides gave in to their fanatics (Israeli settlers and Hamas/Islamic Jihad).
Both sides of the extremes have proven what they would do if they are in charge.
Violence, terror... genocide.
Not saying you're wrong, but Israel funded those fanatics so the Palestinian peace movement would lose steam. They wanted this to happen.
You are painfully correct, but it is a complicated situation stretching to the days of Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin and his assassination, and there's history before that.
If you want to brutally simplify it, you can point the finger at the current prime minister and the Israeli settlers and their supporters in the right wing.
Just don't forget to point your other finger at Hamas, abu-mazen (PLO leader, Holocaust denier), Yasser Arafat and Iran.
It is, as I said previously, complicated.
Why would I point the finger at Hamas? It wouldn't exist if Israel didn't support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.
I feel the same way about al queda, we created it so we don't get to complain.
Hamas started in 1987 and always was a Muslim ISIS-like organization who's goal was the destruction of Israel.
Until the rule of Benjamin Netanyahu, no Israeli government supported Hamas. Quite the contrary, it fought against it. It is not like the US and Al-Queda (which was used as a proxy against the Soviets).
I'm not sure I understand your claim here.
Officially yes.
Incorrect, netanyahu just didn't hide it very well, bro there's so many times where you have documented accounts of Israel letting Hamas attacks happen and then moving to stop them. It's exactly the same were just father apart.
Hamas could have and would have been exterminated in the 90s if Israel thought it benefitted them very simple, they needed a existential enemy so they made one.
Why would Israel keep Hamas since the 90's while the PLO and Islamic Jihad did the same thing only worse?
Where the hell are you bringing these conspiracy theories from?
Hm. They actually seem to be kinda right. According to this article and this one, which source Israeli government officials from the time, they helped them since the 80's and basically helped make Hamas a thing. They did it to make the Muslim Brotherhood -based organization which ended up being Hamas and the more secular PLO fight each other, to basically drive a wedge in the Palestinians.
Well... shit... it IS like Al-Queda. What a grim mistake, and surprise.
Right?! I wouldn't have believed the other person either if it weren't for sources from pretty reputable news organizations. And it's interesting that basically the same mistakes were made with these two different groups (Israel and Hamas, the US and Al-Queda). I bet it's probably been done more in South America or Africa or something.
EDIT: But for others reading, no, it doesn't make Hamas (or Al-Queda) the good guys. It just means there are multiple bad guys all around. But you can't make me feel bad about being distraught from Hamas killing civilians. There were babies and other innocents in there who never did anything wrong to Palestinians, and rape is a war crime that I can never just look over.
Because they need a predictable boogieman.
What theory, it's objective fact.
@ventrasqwal answered fully, holy shit... I didn't know this.
Yeah it's fucked, the entire history of the area is fucked because three 2000 year old toddlers can't get along and stop being mean during story time.
Suck when Hamas uses you as a human shield
I don't disagree with this line, but they are also the victim. The origins of the nationalist movement for a Jewish state came in light of Russian pogroms killing Jews -- a Jewish scholar noted that the only way they could have peace, freedom, and respect seemed to be having a nation of their own.
Israel has absolutely been the oppressor for a lot of the country's history, but it takes some fucking gall to say Israel is the oppressor after Hamas killed and kidnapped civilians. Your logic in fact would suggest Israel has the moral high ground now. The Hamas attack has killed a ton of innocent people, including children.
Tell me, does Hamas have the right to kill Israeli children because the Israeli government killed Palestinian children? If so, does Israel have the right if we reverse the situation?
What the Israeli government has done to Palestinians is a war crime and an atrocity. That does not mean Israel is the villain and Hamas is the good guy. The opposite isn't true either. You're grossly simplifying the conflict and not trying to understand its roots.
"Settlements". What a cute word for genocide.
"Settlements". What a cute word for genocide.
"Settlements." What a cute word for "genocide."