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[–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do Israelis have no agency in your mind?

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boiling it down to the system that has been in place for the last 30-40 years? Yes they do.

They take the money. They take the weapons. They are told to use the weapons. They use the weapons on Palestine.

Here, maybe I won't get completely eviscerated for this one. Israel is Vader. The US is Palpatine.

Israel was never forced to turn evil, but the US has the carrot and Israel keeps reaching for it.

As a result, they have spent decades torturing and murdering innocent people. Small wonder a resistance formed.

Now flash back to Iraq. America made Osama Bin Laden a national hero. America's existence is the result of guerrilla warfare. I was taught by American education that America did it first. I know we didn't.

Anyway, America went into Iraq, helped install Saddam, rewarded Osama for being effective in installing Saddam, then Al Queda started doing things we didn't like and we got stuck in war with Iraq for decades.

The parallels between America's involvement with Iraq and America's involvement with Israel are astounding to me.

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh? Osama bin Laden was 11 when Saddam Hussein became vice president of Iraq. He was in university when the president resigned and Hussein became president and then was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan during the early years of his rule. Al-Qaeda had no presence in Iraq before the US invasion - and didn't even exist until a decade after Hussein became president.