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Ukraine’s Jewish president says world must stand united against terror as Hamas launches deadly surprise assault

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose country is fending off a Russian invasion, said Saturday that Israel had an unquestionable right to defend itself from attacks from Palestinian terrorists.

The Hamas terror group launched an unprecedented assault on Israel in the morning, firing thousands of rockets, sending gunmen into Israeli communities and military bases by land, sea and air, killing at least 200 people, injuring over 1,400, and taking hostages.

“Israel’s right to defense is indisputable,” Zelensky, who is Jewish, said on Telegram.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a stupid article that didn't deserve reposting.

Zelensky is obviously going to take Israel's side, since Israel might actually provide Ukraine with weapons, aid, or intelligence, whereas Hamas will provide Ukraine with nothing and is aligned with Iran who are actively supplying Russia with the drones that are murdering them.

But yeah, from an analagous standpoint, Israel would be Russia who has illegally occupied the land of Palestine, and this is roughly the equivalent of Ukraine striking back at Russia in Russia's territory, though there certainly seem like far far more civilian casualties than in any of Ukraine's operations, at the same time Palestinians are also far more desperate and have face decades and decades of oppression, conditions likely to foster extremism.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also ukraine has high tech guided munitions and drones. Hamas has incredibly low tech and Inaccurate rockets.

[–] rattboi@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their rockets were born without the first sin.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn is that why ours keep killing kids?

It's why ours do it without remorse. :-(

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

*inaccurate.

Side note: how do we live in a world with ChatGPT but still have such awful autocorrect?

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Idk I feel like the autocorrect on the iPhone with iOS 17 has gotten much better and apparently it gets even better with time as it learns your words and other aspects of how you wrote.

Ok, I swiped the above as fast as I could without corrections. Only issue is I didn’t put any punctuation, bc I’m not use to typing that way. Usually a two thumbed, tapping typer.

[–] argues_semantics@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think you meant to say inaccurate. Immaculate is when you set someone free, particularly of social or legal restrictions.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's another way to spin the analogy, and I believe that's closer to what Zelensky had in mind.

Both Russia and Hamas target civilian buildings with rockets. Both recently advanced in a military invasion into the sovereign territory of Ukraine / Israel. Both kidnapped and murdered citizencs. So the analogy is Russia / Hamas vs Ukraine / Israel.

I think it's a bit weird Zelensky would ally with a country which behaves like Russia from his point of view. I agree he probably might still do it, since he needs the weapons. But given this incentive, I think the alternative analogy becomes far more appealing and convincing.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Eh, that alternative analogy is a worse one though, since it falls apart the minute you look at Israel's past indiscriminate killing of civilians and current unilateral and internationally condemned occupation of Palestinian territory.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both Russia and Hamas target civilian buildings with rockets

Thats disingenuous. While im sure Hamas would have 0 problem with targeting civilians if they could, the reality is their rockers are far too primitive to target much of anything.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Lol, true. Then let's rephrase it a bit: They shoot rockets in the expectation to hit civilian buildings, if anything.