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Are you telling me that I, who have never owned a car in my life, are unable to leave my house? Just because you got used to your car doesn't mean it's the only method of transportation. If it is the only method of transportation where you live, then, and I am sorry this is the case, but you could advocate for something better instead of giving up and accepting status quo.
I am advocating specifically for the removal of policy that hinder the progress of alternative transportation. Electric cars would be fine if it was not for the fact that they are part of the policies that postpone or, in most cases, shut down alternative transportation. The inevitably city-redesign can is kicked down the road, becoming increasingly expensive as the years tack on. The best time to do something about this was 30 years ago.
Electric cars will not save the planet. Electric cars will save the car industry.
I'm not taking about you, I'm taking about me and millions of others who couldn't walk or bike to where they work or get groceries, much less everything else. I am advocating for something better. But even if everyone was on board, it would still take years. And everyone else is very much not on board. I'm not giving up and accepting the status quo, I'm saying we need an transitional solution while we work to change things.
An electric car will kick this proverbial can down the road and make the bandaid even more painful to peel off because while you think you're doing your part for the world there are 500 politicians who are using that time you've given them to eradicate progress toward a better city design.
This is unfortunately the kind of problem where you have to suffer to solve it. If you can't or won't do that, that's fine. I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life, I'm just telling you how this has historically played out over the last 3 decades. Capitalist innovation will not solve that capitalism is exploitative and wasteful.
By staying inside for years? That's what I was asking.
No one says you have to stop driving your car while the city is undergoing restructuring. I am saying that allowing politicians to call electric cars a win will only entrench car culture even more. You have a strange "one or the other" mentality about this.
We have had every piece of technology required to solve climate chance and make cities human-centric for decades. More technology won't change anything. A fundamental restructuring of our economic model would. Electric cars do not help us toward that goal. Electric cars allow politicians to virtue signal about how green they are, while signing free trade deals that undermine the progress being made behind your back.