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[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

If the infrastructure can't handle it, then upgrade the fucking infrastructure! Politicians will fall at voters' feet to build new roads, highways, etc., but when it comes to the green energy transition, there's no problem too minuscule to be ignored!

I'll happily admit that there are going to be many issues in the green energy transition; we should acknowledge them, but we should also strive to address them, rather than throwing our hands up in the air and idly promulgating the status quo.

[–] bradmont@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Switching from one type of car to another isn't a green transition. Car production still creates enormous co2 emissions, paving everything for cars makes heat islands, tires produce piles of particulate pollution, and so on. Fixing the car pollution problem means moving to other forms of transportation, not just slightly-less-bad automobiles.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If a medium sized city went all electric vehicles, there would be one or two possible ICEs producing electricity (assuming no hydroelectic) for the cars instead of 250,000+ ICEs on the roads. Quit your bullshit.

[–] bradmont@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No need to swear, friend. If that city switched to walking and shared transport, most of those roads could be converted into housing or parkland instead of concrete and parking.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This assumes that everyone would go to one place for work and one place for shopping. And that they can walk the distances between.

[–] MapleCoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, a heck of a lot of people do get by just fine using public transport.

I think a nice balance would be better, personally, but it is an option. Public transit would be more viable if we increased it's infrastructure. I believe that more people would use it if it was more appealing.

Sometimes it can be fun to not need to drive lol. Some of the best nights out over the last year ended in a bus ride home. Nobody had to be the DD this way.

I don't know why, but I feel like I should also specify that we kept to ourselves and didn't really talk while we were on the bus those nights.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I definitely want more of those options available, and walkable mixed use communities. It just cant solve everything, sadly

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