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I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 229 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.

Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

And the other stuff

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s a big one. People tend to go with the default

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why the apps on the official stores are so important. Convenience wins.

[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rule of the defaults. Most people use whatever the default is. That's why there is always a push to he the default thing. Microsoft pushes edge on their stuff, Google pushes chrome, apps pushes safari, etc.

[–] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s also why Google pays Apple $20 billion annually to be Safari’s default search engine. Most people can’t be bothered to change their defaults/don’t want to after having it as their default for so long.

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a problem that will reveal itself later. Decentralization goes away when everyone flocks to one server. Turns into Reddit 2.0

[–] Gullible@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure whether the issues plaguing Reddit really apply to lemmy, even with a single instance being disproportionately larger than the others, which makes “Reddit 2.0” a bit less derogatory to me. Reddit’s moderator tools were severely lacking for the required output (federation helps diffuse communities, and lemmy doesn’t encourage bots to swarm in order to increase apparent user numbers for investor satisfaction), every big anti-hate decision required a media spectacle to precede it (admins here aren’t free speech absolutists with authoritarian hard-ons), and staff retention at Reddit is an odd loop of promotion into managerial obsolescence which severely increases overhead (irrelevant to lemmy). Reddit 2.0 wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to me.

[–] Thagthebarbarian@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that signups on .ml is closed so you can't join anyway

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

This is the correct answer. The devs have been saying this for years but new users often weren't aware of this and saw it as the default instance. It's good to see that's changed.

[–] IlllIIIlllIlllI@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re not neutral though. They’ve already started defederating instances with users whose opinions they don’t like.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well I said they advertise, not that they are.