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Greetings dear lemm.ee folks,

I have noticed an increasing number of lemm.ee users dissatisfied with Hexbearians. Reading through the modlogs on hexbear.net, I have observed truckloads of lemm.ee users being banned on hexbear.net, meaning that they won't see any Hexbearian's reply to them since Hexbearians aren't able to see their comments. Despite this, I have yet to see the complaints from lemm.ee die down. May I politely ask, what is it that makes so many lemm.ee users hate us? And, how can we improve? Thanks!

I humbly request that all parties involved in the comments refrain from using slurs or name-calling to reduce the workload on mods and admins.

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[–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I'm mostly neutral on Hexbear, I do have one significant issue with it: Your emojis show as giant images on other instances, and hexbear users seem to love using those emojis everywhere. I'd recommend using spoiler tags to hide them when posting to other communities until that's fixed.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah we have taken to mostly using spoiler tags for them, but that is an issue that is being worked on and was only made apparent after federation. So it's not really our fault.

Also it's very funny when someone says something very stupid and is met with a giant picture of a pig shitting on its own balls.

Also also, we can't help that we have the best collection of emojis on the entire internet.

[–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also it’s very funny when someone says something very stupid and is met with a giant picture of a pig shitting on its own balls.

Ehh, most instances would reasonably call that out as trolling. PPB is the opposite of a good faith argument.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PPB is the opposite of a good faith argument.

We'll give the libs a "good faith argument" when we get one.

That usually does not happen though.

[–] BurriedCondor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See this right here is why everyone hates you

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

If everyone hates us, why have we gotten so many people loving us since the federation?

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because we don't meet bad faith arguments with good faith

You might want to look up the tolerance paradox

[–] BurriedCondor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you see arguments where there are none and then shit all over the walls.

[–] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Because we know how to read subtext and are able to call it out

[–] axont@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

why would we give a good faith argument if we see someone saying something stupid? If I see someone saying something aggressively stupid, or they're being transphobic, racist, or whatever, why would I engage them as a serious person? At that point I just want to have a laugh because I don't respect them and have no faith they'll ever change unless subject to public embarrassment.

if someone approaches in good faith I'll talk with them but at a certain point you gotta realize some people enjoy being clueless and they deserve mockery until such point they decide they'd rather be more well-informed

There are people who say things like "I don't know what this is and would like to talk about it." That's not being stupid and shouldn't be mocked. That's good faith. Then there are people who go "I don't know what this is, but I'll act like an expert anyway and refuse to be corrected." That's aggressively stupid and doesn't deserve a respectful argument.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

deliberately so. You've gotta deserve it tbf

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

90% of the time when I attempt good faith argument with liberals, they almost immediately begin deflecting and pretending to be incompetent.

I still attempt it, but it's easy to see why it's probably better to just make fun of those people. Obviously honesty, knowledge, and good faith engagement means nothing to them.

[–] kux@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

your emojis are shit and make you look like very stupid children

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people most preoccupied with performative maturity seem to be the most immature ones of all.

Like, for example, you making a brand-new account with a 4chan edgelord "cuck" reference built right in just to scream at us here. miyazaki-laugh

[–] kux@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

who's screaming? kux means nothing, it's just a short pronouncable username. i admit i have used it for the abhorrent act of making a brand-new account, show me to the gulag

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Oh damn, we have been owned

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Nope they're super funny. Get on our level.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

This is not how adults converse, even when people say stupid things.

The fact of the matter is you think you're winning by posting pigpoop on people, but it's y'all's post history and y'all are the ones possessing that image lol

Y'all act like children