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[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 109 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I get asking for mercy for family or a close friend, even when they’ve committed crimes, heinous or otherwise. I’ll chalk that up to human emotions.

But ffs, read the room a bit.

His dedication to leading a drug-free life and the genuine care he extends to others make him an outstanding role model and friend.

One of the most remarkable aspects of Danny’s character is his unwavering commitment to discouraging the use of drugs.

His dedication to avoiding all substances has inspired not only me but also countless others in our circle. Danny’s steadfastness in promoting a drug-free lifestyle has been a guiding light in my journey through the entertainment world and has helped me prioritize my well-being and focus on make responsible choices.

Saying stuff like that when he’s convicted of drugging victims before taping them is just nuts. Even by some sense of stupidity you think you’re just trying to highlight that he’s not a habitual drug user, you’re essentially just highlighting how calculated his actions were by drugging his victims.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, in what manner would personal drug use have anything to do with him being a rapist? Their attempted defense is irrelevant.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I commented elsewhere that I wondered if they believe he’s innocent. If they truly believe this is a miscarriage of justice could these letters be written with his appeal in mind? There’s no physical evidence as I understand, maybe they’re going for the “this guy is so sober he wouldn’t even know how to get drugs” angle? I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If it was drug charges sure, but it's not. Drug use is irrelevant.

He raped multiple women.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He drugged the women so it's relevant in that sense. Implying that he wouldn't know how to obtain the substances needed to do that is an argument for his innocence.

It's a pathetic argument to make, but it's not illogical.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Having worked in the entertainment industry- if a drug exists and you want it, you can get it. So everyone knows how to get drugs. That part isn't all that hard to believe.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.

manipulators be manipulating.

Rapists and other abusers are known to very often charm everyone around them. It isn't only a way to lure in their victims, but it's also a great defence against suspicion ("he's such a nice guy, he could never") which has proven to work over and over and over again (and those are just the most famous cases off the top of my head, but the pattern repeats often at all levels of wealth and fame/anonymity).

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

abusers have to be charming, if they weren't then they'd have no one to manipulate.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's not a defense, it's just a character statement to be taken into account in sentencing. I too think Kutcher shouldn't have written it, but it's not any kind of defense of the charges

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, he would've been a better person if he did more drugs and less raping.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I didn't read the rest of the letter, the paragraphs expressing nondrug use sounded exactly like it needed this to be pointed out. What a silly bar anyway, did you use drugs or not. Then to hear he used them on his victims...these letters are just clueless.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So ... what they're saying is that he was stone cold sober when he was drugging his victims? That's not a great look.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

a look of an opportunistic predator.

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

People who preach often about not doing the minor vices, are usually engaged in some heinous shit; the preaching bit is a cover both lying to others and most importantly themselves

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the drug free commitment is from his Scientologist handlers.

Masterson was born to rich socialites and insulated from consequences his whole life. Fuck that shithead.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so let me get this straight, danny would get drugs and instead of using it himself, he used it on unsuspecting victims and then taped himself raping them. and this has been a "a guiding light in (ashtons) journey"... "of making responsible choices"...? what.the.fuck?!

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

At this point it's basically telling on yourself (if it isn't skeletons in his own closet, at bare minimum it's saying he's a piece of shit who openly supports a rapist. A convicted one at that).

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Probably a bit of, "I can't believe my friend would do these bad things." People close to someone are harder to convince without seeing things first hand or hearing from other people they are close to.

But he didn’t do the drugs! /s