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[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism isn't, but "SociALiSm" is.

Taxing people and providing social services is not Socialism. It's capitalism and good governance.

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, an average person in the DSA believes in wayy more than any regular social democrat. I agree that they're not radical enough, but they're an enormous organization of people against the status quo and so many of them genuinely care, so it's no surprise that a huge part of current radicals are ex-DSA members.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have different definitions of "enormous organization"

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

For the standards of leftists in the USA, they're massive.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The DSA is not a significant political force, much less the people that radicalize out of the DSA.

In August 2023, the organization claimed 77,575 members.[1] According to the finance data for the 2021 DSA convention, the organization collected $4.6 million in membership dues in 2020.[157] The DSA allows membership dues waivers for members who "may be experiencing financial problems right now".[158]

DSA membership in 2023 declined from 2021, when membership peaked at around 95,000 members

Even at their peak, 100k people is not a significant political force, nor what I would call an "enormous organization."

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enormous by socialist standards. The fact that they can have so many members in this day and age is commendable. A few decades ago any socialist thought being given an honest platform at all among the general population was a miracle.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The internet helped lots of uninformed populists radicalize each other, sadly.