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The landlord had told them he wanted to raise the rent to $3,500 and when they complained he decided to raise it to $9,500.

β€œWe know that our building is not rent controlled and this was something we were always worried about happening and there is no way we can afford $9,500 per month," Yumna Farooq said.

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[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's similar in Quebec. Unfortunately this is only enforced by informed renters, so landlords often raise it much more than the allowed amount when someone moves out.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Norway you can set the rent as you wish when negotiating the initial contact. So it doesn't matter what the previous tenants rent was. But the raise cap per year is set per year after that as long as the contact is valid.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

That's a great compromise imo

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This exact same thing can happen in QuΓ©bec with appartements less than 5 years old, the infamous F part, In Montreal a LL can increase your raise from 2500$ to 9500$ if he wishes.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, just read a bit more about this. That's insane

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is no limit on what you can change the rent by between renters. Only what you can increase while the same person lives in the unit. The moment they move out its perfectly fine to increase the rent for the next renter.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

The landlord has to let the renter know what the lowest rent was in the 12 months before they sign the lease. If there is an excessive raise, you can ask the TAL to calculate a new amount. https://educaloi.qc.ca/actualites-juridiques/section-g-chien-garde-hausses-excessives/

In reality, landlords usually leave that blank, and renters are wary of starting on the wrong foot with their new landlord. There is a custom of leaving a copy of your lease in the kitchen drawer for the next person to find.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say it's legal but not perfectly fine.

There is a vast difference between the two, esp when it come out of #DrugFraud 's office.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

These laws exist to protect existing renters against exploitation of the cost of moving as a negotiation tactic (since the consumer cannot easily shop between renegotiations, it is not a free market).

These laws do not exist to implement fixed housing price policy. What you may be looking for is public housing.

In my experience, a lot of existing rental law tends to be a pretty fair balance between rights of renters and very small property owners, which we should totally encourage. The problems arise with medium and large (institutional) property owners, that don't need the same degree of protection as small renters, and who leverage their size to bully. The laws should be updated to be stricter for large blocks of ownership. But defining that can be a challenge.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When I lived in Quebec they raised it like 8%, and my boss told me to appeal it. As an American it blew my mind I could say no. They ended up being allowed to only raise it 4%.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We need an official rental price registry, managed by the TAL so that new renters have access to the rental price of previous tenants.