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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Or the guys lying and saying that you're right-wing anti-LGBT people masquerading as leftist?

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never know if i should be more repulsed by the sheer amount of transphobia in that kind of comments or just completely baffled by how ignorant and clueless these people are. First time i saw that in the wild, it was by some guy who thought that it's suspicious when his replies include pronouns like, i shit you not, he / him, she / her, they / them and any / undecided. Made him think we're Russian bots with pronouns set to shuffle. Like mfer have you been living under a rock, there wasn't even a single neopronoun or she / it catgirl in there! Any irl trans meetup i've even been to had a wider pronoun selection than that. When other users pressed him on that, he admitted that he had never talked to a trans person in his life, which is probably better for all the trans people he could run into.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When other users pressed him on that, he admitted that he had never talked to a trans person in his life, which is probably better for all the trans people he could run into.

I don't know. Lack of exposure to different people and cultures is often a root cause of hatred and LGBTQ+ phobia. To be clear, I'm not advocating throwing trans people at transphobes with literal or figurative catapults in order to fight transphobia. Just that ignorance and narrow world experience tends to breed such attitudes, when they aren't adopted explicitly to try to control people.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

You’re onto something with the firing catapults at transphobes part. We just need to workshop it a little more.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which is hilarious considering how much better we are at banning transphobia than most other instances

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our big wet mods are pretty quick to handle those kinds of things.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unbothered, moisturized, in my lane, banning libs.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

in fact i did a survey of other online trans communities and we have the most trans positive admins and mods of any one group. (for example, we have 26 mods/admins patrolling the reports of /c/traa and removing transphobic content)

at some point, ideally once we reopen registrations, i intend on getting more trans people to this platform so they can be in a nicer place free of transphobic rhetoric rather than being constantly under siege on places like reddit where mods experience burnout incredibly fast

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

That's amazing. I don't envy the mods for the efforts necessary to keep this space safe but really appreciate them and am glad that they are being so effective for the trans community here.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would it be possible for you to post that survey here?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i pretty much just went to every trans subreddit and places like susans place and counted the number of mods and admins. nothing really got close to 26. its pretty easy to vet trans positive mods here too, if you havent caught a ban in 1+ years of being here odds are you arent a shithead

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago

As a cis/het person close to several trans people, this is one of the top reasons that I appreciate this instance. Moderation around transphobia is not as consistent in other instances, which allows hate to extend its reach, and puts lives at greater risk.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the ones where they go looking for a fight in our instance, then use that as reason to defed lol

I think we've done alright tbh

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

I would say that also sometimes folks are mistakenly thought to be picking a fight and can get a bit singed. But I can live with experiencing a little bit of hurt feelings and char (Maillard reactions produce excellent flavor) if it means that people from groups that actually face oppression are safer.

But, I have also seen exactly what you're mentioning. And there are some users who are absolutely obsessed with painting Hexbears as evil and requiring defederation - I blocked one from shitjustworks because I got tired of seeing their obsessive postings trying for "gotchas".

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

It's so cool being told by liberals that I'm faking my gender and politics to score political points online when I've spent literally years trying to avoid being online, and it's all because I have the wrong views about zelensky-pain or something

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

even though socialism is a strong undercurrent in the trans community since stonewall, and there was even a book written about it by leslie feinberg in the 90s?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

You're not supposed to bring historical context into this!!! /s