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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

So you just surrender and don't have a home anymore/die anyways?

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (21 children)
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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

How would Ukrainians lose their homes/die if a successful peace deal was brokered?

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by "don't have a home?"

[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

It would have to be a really shitty surrender treaty to have the clause "Ukraine will surrender all land to Russia and will also die anyways." Like you realize this is useless and dumb hyperbole right?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

What do you honestly think is going to happen to Ukraine if theres a ceasefire? Without using cartoon logic

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just have to read about the Great Soviet Famine to know how Russia regards the Ukrainian people. Well, all the people who are not the Tzar really. Putin has already started the latest genocide via war and stealing children.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

The famine that affected the whole USSR, of which Ukraine was a part? What does that have to do with Russia, let along the "Tzar"?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And then you get raped and killed. Like glorious Russia has always done throughout your history.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Everyone is Adolf: A Socially Awkward Morons Guide to Winning Debates.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

More ableism from liberals? shocked-pikachu

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think Russia went to Ukraine and they sat down in a nice comfy living room with a fireplace and discussed one country handing everything they have over to the other?

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I'm aware of the fact that there's an actual war going on.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't seem aware of it by your comments.

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't seem self aware by your comments.

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're making no sense here at all.

Are you a bot?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I've seen them do the same thing with landlord apologia. They say something silly, get critiqued and then its "lol, no u"

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny how these people think they deserve any equal respect or recognition as a human on this site (Remember le human!) when their honest to god conversational cadence sounds like a machine-translated speech algorithm. Would you respect this person's time if you met them for real? And if they started talking like this?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If being supportive of a sovereign nation that's been invaded doesn't make sense to you... Idk man. That's a shitty way to think.

[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

A sovereign nation who's leadership drank the NATO kool-aid against the protest of their nuclear armed neighbor, goading them into a fight. The victims are the people of both nations.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

That is somehow still more likely than Russia completely annexing Ukraine with less than half the East in their control

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure you weren't one of the people celebrating whenever someone would post a video of that happening to a Russian on Reddit.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reddit reddit reddit. That's all you children talk about. Why don't you just give in and make an account? It's all you talk about anyway.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You didnt deny it, which wouldve been easy. Something you dont wanna talk about?

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you think peace talks equal surrender? How do you think literally all other wars came to an end?

[–] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Because context is a thing. Or do you think Russia would currently accept any peace deal that includes leaving Ukraine? Of course there will have to be a peace deal at the end, but currently there are no peace deals that would be acceptable to either party.

When there is talk about “peace deals”, such deals are implied to somewhat reflect the status quo border wise, which at the moment would mean that Ukraine surrenders. It’s Russia currently occupying Ukraine and trying to legitimise it, not the other way around. No shit a peace deal would be favourable to them.