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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] bzz@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Pretty disappointing that @iamaqtpie is active on hexbear and says things like:

Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that’s well underway over here.

which reddit considered hate speech πŸ™„

Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

It's clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it's decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn't this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn't mean anything?

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

which reddit considered hate speech πŸ™„

here's the whole quote, emphasis mine:

Hexbear is a Lemmy server that was created about 3 years ago as a new home for the former users of r/chapotraphouse. CTH was banned from reddit because they were openly calling for the deaths of slave owners, which reddit considered hate speech πŸ™„

Why would you take this out of context, and what is your issue with the whole quote?

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

technically we were just expressing our support for US military action in the civil war and the song John Brown's body. Which was an official song of the US army at one point.

We were kicked off for our American patriotism if you think about it

[–] bzz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The quote was to establish that the admins personal feelings are involved about the instance.

It is an objective fact that the sub was banned on Reddit for hate speech. The rolling eyes emoji establishes the admins personal feelings on the subject.

Whether the ban is justified or not is irrelevant to my point that SJW does not care to understand what its user base may want.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

objective fact

It's an "objective fact" that support for John Brown's history of fighting slavery and slavers is hate speech?

Way to drop that mask.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Slavers do (and did) deserve to die though, it's not hate speech it's just true

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

kill all slavers. every last one.

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[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

We are just better at democracy then you, sweety.

xi-vote

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When asked whether they believe their country is democratic, those in China topped the list, with some 83% saying the communist-led People's Republic was a democracy. A resounding 91% said that democracy is important to them.

But in the U.S., which touts itself as a global beacon of democracy, only 49% of those asked said their country was a democracy. And just over three-quarters of respondents, 76%, said democracy was important.

https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176

Ya I will take the people of china's word on this one.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

yes and North Korea is democratic because it says they are.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

More democratic than the US. The US has an electoral college system explicitly designed to make electing a president undemocratic. In Korea they vote for each equivalent of a cabinet position instead of letting the president just appoint all of them. https://www.ncnk.org/sites/default/files/DPRK%20constitution%20%282019%29.pdf

If this shocks you, remember that Americans are the most propagandized people in the history of the world

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[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

China is not North Korea.

It took less then 2 minutes from my post for you to reply. You clearly didn't even open the link. You just instantly changed the subject matter. Lol

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn't really wow me.

China is authoritarian, filled with mass propaganda and nationalism, of course they're going to think they're great.

[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn't really wow me.

I literally got a notification when they replied. in real time...
I know when I made my comment... less then 2 minutes before I got a notification...

Tell me more about how the lemmy works. I have only been here 4 years.

Good bye, agent.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (26 children)

filled with mass propaganda and nationalism

Yo we got that too in America.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The citation wasn't the state, it was the people, or are you going to take such an immensely condescending attitude towards the approximately 1 billion people represented in that survey as believing they live in a democracy?

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh you not gonna whataboutism mentioning the US?

[–] 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a bit of a non-sequitur in this instance don't you think? We're not talking about what the name of a place is, but rather how the two countries' citizenry feel about their respective governments.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So isn't it good that the US people don't trust their government?

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[–] bzz1@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

LMAO I got banned for this post

No reason given. Just "mod Banned"

That's a highly suspicious use of a ban that I would like admin feedback on.

While your take about decision making is slightly wrong...
We're federating with everything by default and use blocklists. Hexbear is fedetating with nobody by default and uses allowlists.
Basically, no action has been made by local admins for this new federation to happen.
We never had to defederate them before because they weren't fedetating with us.

The next step would be discussion then vote in the agora. I expect defederation to take a bit more than a week if the process hasn't changed too much since last time.

That said, your comment isn't anywhere near ban worthy and is a really bad optics on whichever mod was involved in that.

[–] bzz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Looks like I got unbanned and my alt banned

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

You’re welcome to join hexbear, where this federation decision was voted on and we tried to make a space for people who are tired of the fediverse too.

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