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[–] spector@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. When they can't come to grips with that. They will never even see them as individuals. It goes no further than a monolith of which there are some who happen to be living in Canada but never Canadian. Gotta walk around making public displays of appeasement so peanut over there won't be shaking his is boot because they're all CCP agents until proven otherwise.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you did a great job at ignoring everything i said and then misrepresenting me.

"The perpetual foreigner mindset. They will never see certain people as Canadian. "

this is directly antithetical to my beliefs and actions. although that won't stop you from saying it.

and at no point did i even mildly suggest that chinese canadians have to prove they aren't CCP agents, or insinuate that they are any less canadian than i am.

however i did suggest that a more open dialogue on the subject could help to dissuade that from being a popular mindset for people incapable of understanding nuanced situations.

can't have a single conversation without this strawman bullshit.

from my understanding, there is enough reason to believe in and want to deal with CCP instating their authority in canada to affect canadians. i did also suggest that there might be difficulty in dealing with it openly due to pressure from an unethical authoritarian regime.

if your argument is that there is no CCP influence problem, that's another conversation, and i'm always available for new information. if your argument is that we shouldn't care even if there is CCP influence, then i disagree with you.

again, i am not and never would be defending the assholes or behavior stated in op's article. if you could just say "no, stop, that's bad." and have the issue be fixed, this would be a lot more simple. that apparently won't stop you from ignoring that nuance exists.

i have never said anything negative about "chinese canadians" because that is a diverse and populous group of every kind of individual and mindset. just like any other large group of canadians that fit any other group label. that being said, i have a in intense loathing of the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. i say the same shit about russia. i also don't agree with labelling all russians as evil, just because of the shitty situation caused by the authoritarian regime in charge.

i am just doing my best to understand and react to a complicated and nuanced situation that affects many people, as well as the stability of our political structure. if you disagree with any of my points, make a note on that point. don't ignore my intentionally phrased statements so that you can put words in my mouth and strawman my intentions into something else.

you are helping nobody and doing nothing to improve the situation.

maybe stop being an asshole and actually take part in a conversation.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Again, you are calling for the victims to change their behaviour, not the perpetrators.

Fucking Hell is white privilege embedded deep within you!