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[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Storage technology isn't there yet. Nuclear is. The only viable approach is "all of the above." Anything less is foolishness and oil industry propaganda.

[–] Relo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

50 yeas ago people couldn't think of a future without fossile fuel. 100 years ago people thought ships would run on coal for eternity and 200 years ago or in fact up until WW2 horses did most of the work when it came to transportation.

Things change fast. Stagnation of technology is not the norm.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are urgent needs we can't wait 50 years for.

[–] Relo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

France started to build their new power plant in 2007 and hope to connect it to the grid next year.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I guarantee you that climate change and industrial loads will still be a thing in 16 years.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same people who run the oil companies also run nuclear plants, billionaires love a monopoly but what they hate is local communities being able to own and run solar farms and wind turbines, they hate the idea of someone that isn't them being able to spend a million making a profitable offshore wind farm or a raised water energy storage facility -- more than anything they hate the thought of houses and businesses having PV on the roof and being able to detach evenb just in part from the mechanisms owned by them.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same people who run the oil companies also run nuclear plants

What? You keep saying this in this thread, where the hell are you getting it from?

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean it's not even a deep dive to get to that conclusion, it's not even a puddle depth investigation - the companies which run nuclear power station are also oil and gas companies. EDF literally just do both, you don't need to look at shared ownership or board members or anything, they're literally a French government owned power company that traditionally deal in fossel fuel. NRG energy literally nuclear and fossel fuel company, Siemens energy literally used to be called gas and power division, Bruce power in Canada is TC energy who are the major player in oil and gas pipelines....

Go look up who owns your local nuclear plant, it's oil and gas companies so let's not pretend otherwise

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, those are power companies. If you're calling public power companies "the oil and gas billionaires" then you're clearly being facetious.

When people talk about the oil and gas billionaires they are referring to the ones who spend millions on lobbying, Exxon, Shell, BP, Aramco, etc. You know, the ones funding climate change denial and nuclear fearmongering for decades.