The Democrats aren't innocent. But to pretend that the Republicans are because the neocons switched to the Democratic party is pure lunacy. Especially when the base claim, that the neocons switched parties, is such a load of bullshit ot can be seen from space.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where did I say the Republicans were innocent? I said they're slightly less bad on imperialism and worse on domestic issues so it's a wash since I'm not going to weigh lives against each other. The neocons absolutely switched parties during Trump/Biden and to deny this is the actual load of bullshit.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The neocons absolutely switched parties during Trump/Biden and to deny this is the actual load of bullshit.

No. They didn't. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The EXACT SAME neocons who ran the foreign policy of bush are still part of the republican party, and the reaganite monsters are still in the party of reagan. This is just nonsense. It's just pure fantasy.

Literally one Bush foreign policy ghoul left the republican party in 2021 (Colin Powell) and that's it.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Colin Powell)

Im so happy he's dead after hearing the first season of blowback holy shit I would kill him myself

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

He's genuinely a monster, and the fact that he managed to be lauded as the adult in the room both in the lead up to the iraq war and then during the 2020 election is one of the most infuriating things I can remember.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m talking about voters, not the individual politicians. The neocon pro-war bloc moved to the Democrats, as can be seen by polling and approval of various imperial projects among the two groups rapidly shifting from 2015-2020.

Also, democrats like Nuland, Clinton, Sullivan, Biden, Obama are all neoconservatives as well.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/democrats-and-republicans-have-different-views-on-nato-and-ukraine/

Democrats are overwhelmingly more pro-NATO, more pro-interference in other nations & have higher approval ratings of every ongoing American war. Higher support for bombing Syria, higher support for Israel, higher support for drone strikes for “anti-terrorism”, higher support for intervention in Niger, higher support for proxy war against Russia…