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[–] quantum_mechanic@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Doubtful. They are mercenaries and won't be getting paid anymore. Mercenaries have no allegiance to anybody.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just because the leader was presumably killed, doesn't mean they stop getting paid. Do you get fired from your job if your boss dies?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If your boss is the CEO and owner, maybe yeah.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your boss was the one that had connections with the client, then maybe eventually yeah.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, was gonna say. A CEO dying doesn't stop the paychecks in a normal company, but if the CEO was murdered by the company's only client...

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know of two small ? (Not sure what the cutoff is) businesses and payroll would stop if they died. They would be paid eventually as the companies have assets, but it would take a while for them to pick up the pieces. Basically for one of them their lead saleswoman would have to assume the role and teach herself basically everything he was doing. Instead of hiring HR/AP/Etc. he outsourced everything to programs and other companies other than sales, design and production. I honestly don't know if the company would survive if he died, which is sad because the lead saleswoman is his wife.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're in the hire of Russia, do you imagine Russia is going to pay them to march on Moscow

[–] chinpokomon@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

If they aren't getting paid, might that instigate some revolt as well?

[–] quantum_mechanic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And who do you suppose is paying them? Putin?

[–] Mdotaut801@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m gonna guess they were possibly expecting this and there’s backup plans.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk about that one, they're employed by Wagner, Wagner is essentially the business entity that allows them to operate as a mercenary group. Who knows how much loyalty they have to their own command structure? If I were the owner of a private Merc army, I would try to instill as much loyalty as I can so they don't turn on me.

[–] bobman@unilem.org -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's just saying things that sound nice in his head but have no basis in reality.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing he wrote is controversial.

-Mercenaries get paid.

-Mercenaries as a group don't hold allegiance to a country

-Mercenaries don't like not getting paid.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was 'controversial', just inaccurate. There's no controversy about it.

What makes you think military members are more loyal to their nation than mercenaries? Heck, one of my most upvoted responses says "Wagner was more gungho about the war in Ukraine than the military."

For a lot of mercenaries, the military doesn't go far enough or give them the freedom to shape the nation how they want.

Literally everything you said can also be said about soldiers, and in most cases it would be more accurate.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mercenaries have no allegiance to anybody.

I mean, that's not entirely true. Some mercenaries actually have allegiance to their companies and really care about their goals.

You'd actually be way more accurate talking about soldiers in the state's military than mercenaries.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 6 points 1 year ago

It could be a move to force Putin to pay them off now they are masterless.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there would be lots to loot, or taking ownership of profitable ex government corporations...