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A Illustration of the unrealistic standards that society sets for men

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[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you are saying you must constantly remind yourself and everyone you are talking to of someone's genitals at birth in every conversation you have constantly or else what - you'll forget?

Are you a goldfish?

People aren't asking you to ignore your eyes dude. They are asking you to allow people space to use their mental tools so they can more easily get through their day. They are legit telling their friends and the people they are around most what way to treat them will make them happiest to make them the most comfortable to be themselves. When you present yourself as a obstacle to someone else's joy and/or wellbeing yeah, people treat you like an ass. You are not the arbiter of truth here. People know that trans women were born phenotypicly male. They are just able to prioritize more than "monkey see, monkey speak".

[–] kwekkie@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The case in point here is a photo. I have no idea about their genitals, nor what they "identify as". I see a woman, clear as day. I'm not talking to them, so "what they want me to call them" is not an issue.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So is Buck Angel a man or a woman?

Are you deluded enough to call Buck Angel a woman too?

I'll give you some credit for choosing to use gender neutral pronouns rather than misgendering Page - even if it would have undermined your point to use gendered pronouns.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So you are afraid of doing any mental work. Not surprised. Also this particular person, Elliot Page, is one of the most famous trans men out there and even if he weren't famous you are grandstanding about how you want to call trans people whatever you feel like.

When you are nasty behind someone's back it's still you showing off how much of a mean killjoy you are practicing up to be to somebody's face someday and that you are proud of being a mean ass killjoy. Then you get upset because ta da - people treat you like a mean killjoy. How unpredictable!