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Police in England installed an AI camera system along a major road. It caught almost 300 drivers in its first 3 days.::An AI camera system installed along a major road in England caught 300 offenses in its first 3 days.There were 180 seat belt offenses and 117 mobile phone

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm not against this. I think the fact that car deaths are skyrocketing in the US and the UK is even more absurd since modern cars are supposedly "safer" with all of their safety tech. Plus how are people still doing this fucking shit when death from dangerous driving has been a thing in the news forever now? It's like people need even more stricter rules to keep them in line instead of thinking like a reasonable adult.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think deaths jumped a bit post COVID but I don't think they are skyrocketing. Do you have a source?

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

I looked it up. They aren't skyrocketing.

The numbers dropped due to lockdown, then bounced up and are stable.

I hate this cult of negativity - just make up how everything is getting worse in order to hand more power to the government.

The casual and bovine l way it all happen is disgusting.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He'll yea use machines to strip people of their freedom and privacy in exchange for "safety" and "security", that could never go wrong

[–] xT1TANx@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I understand your pov but I feel it's misplaced. You are in public in a vehicle. You are in public on a side walk. The same laws that have been used to record police are the same being used here. You have no expectation of privacy in public and if you are seen or recorded breaking a law that is on you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same laws that have been used to record police are the same being used here.

About that...

[–] xT1TANx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't think you understand my point. It's been made clear the First Amendment applies to filming anyone, including police, in public. Any policies that try to bypass that will be destroyed in court. Those same rules apply to all of us as well.

We can absolutely be recorded in public.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know the Constitution has no power in the UK where this camera is right? Not that I'm opposed to it.

[–] xT1TANx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The post I responded to indicated the US and UK. Of course I know that we never invaded and subjugated the English. Clearly I was talking about the US, so ya got me. Pat yourself on the back.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just because someone is in public doesn't mean that they need to be under 24/7 surveillance by big brother. Isn't England already infested with security cameras? The US is pretty lousy with them in some places and if I knew they were actively watching me I'd make a habit of breaking them, not praise them for helping to overpolice every square inch of the country

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the fact that car deaths are skyrocketing in the US and the UK is even more absurd since modern cars are supposedly "safer" with all of their safety tech.

SUV vs. Bicycle: cyclist dead.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not for UK, cyclists is the only category which stay the same between 2022/2021.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/report-reveals-number-of-deaths-on-british-roads-increase-by-8-percent/

Then using UK, one of the countries with the lowest deathtoll on the roads in Europe, beside the US, is a bit of a stretch.

[–] graphite@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

100% agree. It flags infractions, you have people verify what was being flagged, due course follows.

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

People won't put their damn phones away when they are driving.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 3 points 1 year ago

For reference, in Switzerland deaths/major injuries from traffic accidents have steadily dropped since the '70s. Thanks to, as you mention, better car safety tech.

But there has also been a great number of speed cameras and lower alcohol tolerance. Oh and new laws with income-relative fines, temporary to permanent loss of driving license, and even jail for the worst driving offenses probably cooling the jets of even the wealthier road maniacs.

[–] Voli@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

There is a name for that sort, the safer the item is the more reckless the person becomes.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, and some of these are quite serious. But a cop at the side of the road could stop these people instantly. These people won’t find out that they have broke the law for two weeks. Or they could just kill themselves/someone else/both half a mile up the road.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It's about detering behaviours, if people know these cameras are out there, they will be less likely to act like that to begin with as the risk of consequences is now higher.

[–] PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they wouldn't. You are telling me you could stop someone on the motorway instantly. You think a stationary cop at ground level would be able to spot a phone held below the window and have the reaction times to intiate a persute?

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I never suggested any of this...alls I said was a cop at the side of the road could stop a car. I didnt say we couldnt have a copper parked up on a bridge as lookout or use these cameras.