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How about influencers look for a real job instead?
That's exactly what they're bitching about. It is too much like a real job.
I'm honestly sickened by the simping for Amazon in this thread. Pathetic.
Is it really dumping for Amazon? Or just dunking on influencers?
PQNLD, two dopamine hits for the price of one!
All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter.
The labor should reward at least the value it produces. If it produces 0 value then the "job" shouldn't exist.
yeah that's the weirdo liberarian free market capitolism approach that hasn't worked for 30 years, if you want to take that route. it doesn't work.
More like everyone taking Zucks side in his cage match with Elon. We hate them both, a lot, but you’ve got to choose someone to root for.
For me it’s a bit like slime mold. I can mostly avoid contact with Amazon if I choose to; influencers just spring up organically around me an no amount of bleach can get rid of them.
I’m not rooting for Zuck, I just know he’s kick Musks ass. And even if it’s just another billionaire, I always wanna see a billionaire get their ass kicked.
All labor deserves a livable wage. I don't care if it's something I personally find annoying. Fuck amazon for screwing people over, even if I find those people annoying, it doesn't matter.
Not all jobs need to exist. I think everyone here is saying they're fine with "influencer" not being an option anymore.
I'd love for that to extend to professional sports, but I understand that's probably a bit too radical, even for Lemmy.
As someone who doesn't really watch professional sports at all, I'm in no position to argue.
It's labor that a company finds value in, ergo it exists whether you find it annoying or not. Just like telemarketing or insurance. What the issue is, is the simping for the company being able to pay dogshit for the service or not.
Nobody here is simping for Amazon no matter how many times you say it. We just don't have any sympathy for influencers who contribute nothing to society.
you can say "i don't like these people, but people shouldn't be taken advantage of in the labor market" if you like, that wouldn't be simping for amazon. simping for amazon is saying "lol good i hope they all get paid nothing because i find them personally annoying"
That's not simping for Amazon. Simping would involve saying something pro Amazon, no one is doing that.
You're right, no one should be taken advantage of, and if a job isn't worth paying a livable wage for, it's not a job that should exist. It seems like everyone agrees "influencer" isn't a job that should exist.
Influencers don't work for Amazon, they're free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it.
Writers don't work for netflix, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else. But it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it.
Postal workers don't work for delivery companies, they are free to try peddling their nonsense somewhere else, but it turns out they don't actually provide a valuable service to anyone, so no one wants to buy it.
Do you see how you sound now? Just admit that you don't think some people should have a livable wage because you think their job is annoying. Oh no, not for those people, I don't like them.
Yeah, they can sell their work to one of the networks, or Disney, or any of the other dozens of production companies that exist. But if no one wants to buy it, that writer may need to find another job. Or they can band together and strike like they're doing right now. Something tells me no one would notice or care if all the influencers went on strike together.
They do though. Postal workers are directly employed by USPS. And UPS and FedEx drivers work for those companies. Also, people are willing to pay to have their packages delivered to them. There was an article within like the last month about how high the starting salary was for UPS delivery drivers. Because, apparently there is demand for the service they provide.
You're going to need better examples if you want to convince anyone that influencers are worth having around.
I thought we were talking about influencers here - the “give me free stuff and look at how much fun I’m having” crowd.
who are doing labor? or is it only labor if you like it
Because they already have a real job, and now they're being screwed by their employer, just like a real job
Technically it's their client that's putting the thumb screws to them.
If that's the case the logical solution is to put your commercial hat on and find another client. Amazon aren't the only ones paying.
If Amazon was your only client that'll be tough, but speaking from experience if you don't diversify your client base, you're living on borrowed time anyway.
This doesn't mean Amazon are not being abusive, but the solution isn't to moan on the internet.
That's pretty silly; moaning on the Internet is a good way to raise awareness and support. No one can do anything about these structural issues as individuals
I don't really understand what an "influencer" is. Seems like a made up term to justify unemployment,plus they should be called "IMHOs", cause that's exactly what they are: " in my humble opinioners". IMHO of course.
Edit: autocorrect.
Influencers are narcissists monetising their pathology.
It's rarely humble, and rarely their opinion
I suspect many of them aren't humble at all though.