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Why @firefox is not implementing this UI by default and why none of the Firefox-derived web browsers implementing this.

I somehow managed to build this, but its not prefect.

@librewolf

At this point the there has been almost no significant improvement.
How Mozilla Ruined Firefox --> https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU

Hoping @firefox wont forces me to move to brave.

#Linux #foss #privacy #firefox

EDIT:- New UI with Minimize Close Maximize button, giving space which can be used to drag.

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[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm not sure why Firefox must look like a GNOME app by default. IMHO, looks really bad.

Also, how am I supposed to move this window?

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I've never looked at Firefox's tab bar and thought, this UI element really needs to occupy a lot more screen space.

The chunk of screen space lost to that tabs window wouldn't be as big a deal if the windows were maximised, but there's no button for that now either.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the missing maximise button is intentional. They seem to be using a minimal (Linux) window manager and it's quite common for those folks to use keyboard shortcuts for maximising, closing etc., so they probably didn't have those window buttons even before starting that redesign...

[–] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Knusper @zurohki

I am using a tiling window manager so keybaord shortcut for every thing.

I can just make it visible just by adding few lines.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I hate this redesign, maybe that's why Mozilla stuck with the design that works?

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe that’s why Mozilla stuck with the design that works?

My guess would be they're just afraid to change something at this point, considering the reception of their previous redesign.

They mostly follow Chrome UI nowadays, so I doubt we'll see any innovation from them in the UI field.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

They probably don't want to go down the road of having to have a separate UI for every DE. There's DE-specific browsers for people that care about that.

[–] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t put this look on gnome apps lol, they look way better than this.

[–] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TeryVeneno @Lucia

Definitely, If i can develop this in two days, then it shouldn't be as good as gnome apps, which is being developed and designed by industry expert. So no worry over there, you gnome app wont be hurt.

[–] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think you can see this on mastodon, but you were kind so take an upvote.

[–] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@TeryVeneno this is all we can give to strangers KINDNESS 😄

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Judging by your comment history, you use Linux, so here's a neat trick:

Hold down the Alt-key, then you should be able to drag windows from any of their pixels. If that isn't working, try the Meta/Windows-key.

And if you do the same, but with right-click+drag, it should resize the window.

...but yeah, if we're genuinely proposing this as Firefox's new design, there should still be regular drag space.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago

I actually use it a lot, and I anyway use desktops with window decorations only. But, from the perspective of an average FF user, I think the inability to just drag your window will be a dealbreaker. I'm also not a fan of software that forces you to certain workflow.

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

You can move windows by holding the meta key. They got rid of the space between extensions and the url bar but that area is also draggable.

[–] ashishlotake@mastodon.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Lucia Its not to make it look like something else, the screens are become wider and not taller, and it make more sense to move the the tab bar to side (vertical tab bar).

I hide the CLOSE, MINIMIZE & MAXIMIZE button as i am using Sway (a tiling window manager).

And to move, we can just press the mod button (CMD on macs and window logo button on keyboards) then just press the left mouse click on firefox to move screen.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Its not to make it look like something else

Yeah sorry, it looked a bit GNOMEish so I assumed it was related to this desktop.

I hide the CLOSE, MINIMIZE & MAXIMIZE button as i am using Sway

It makes sense for keyboard-driven window managers as well as for DEs with window decorations, but on GNOME for example this design would leave no place to move a window around.

And to move, we can just press the mod button (CMD on macs and window logo button on keyboards) then just press the left mouse click on firefox to move screen.

I use this a lot on Xfce, but most users don't even know they can do this (and will never bother to change their habits). I prefer when application integrates into environment, not forces some kind of workflow. It's totally fine for a personal redesign, but as a main UI it's a bit too much.

Thats why I am saying there are some hiccups here and there and we need implementation directly from developer. Or toggle to move tabs from top to vertical.

I agree, would love to see more customizability on Firefox. I personally prefer tabs to be under toolbar/addressbar, not above it (and to hide when there's only one tab.

[–] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Lucia i was on gnome for a year before switching to sway, so I guess that's the reason of it being looking up like gnome.

As u want tabs to under address bar, it can be achieved, if you are interested I can try to implement it.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago

i was on gnome for a year before switching to sway, so I guess that’s the reason of it being looking up like gnome.

Makes sense.

As u want tabs to under address bar, it can be achieved, if you are interested I can try to implement it.

While I don't propose Vivaldi, I must admit the way they're implementing UI/UX for tabs is the right one. They have optional tab bar and grouped vertical tabs in a sidebar (which is also optional). I think Mozilla should learn some tricks from Vivaldi in that respective.