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Smh how can a black American support Mao over the Tibebetan slave owners?

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[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 87 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think it's that wild. In middle school I was taught that Malcolm X was evil and making things worse for black people because he wasn't peaceful and civil like MLK. That's total and complete bullshit, as I've come to learn, but that's the amerikkkan education system for you

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I heard the same thing. We also had a history textbook that declared the 'most oppressive states in the world' were Vietnam and Laos.

EDIT: Later editions of the book added Afghanistan, and then Iraq, to the list of oppressive states.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

It’s weird how we never even learned about Laos or Cambodia lol, especially since they could’ve spin Vietnamese communism as being pro Pol Pot and no kid would challenge it

[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

wtf-am-i-reading thats rediculous, how could they possibly spin that?

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was something along the lines of "the evil violent northern commies tried to disrupt the peaceful democratic south by attacking American ships and invading". Also a bunch of pro-colonialist propaganda. It was used in a lot of schools in America. Luna Oi actually reviewed the book, and I had forgotten how bad it was until she did. I can't seem to find the video on her channel, though.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s funny. Maybe it’s because I don’t live in a red state or tusk town, but I was taught the Americans fired upon a Vietnamese ship and lied about the circumstances when the Vietnamese fired back

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, that's the truth of what happened, obviously, but the curriculum was still pushing the narrative that the Vietnamese people were the aggressors. I should note that this was back in 2001-2004 before the sanctions against Vietnam were lifted.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I want to say there was a recent-ish (maybe mid-00s) acknoedgement by the U.S. that the original story of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a complete fabrication. It basically went:

  • Original story (that a Vietnamese ship fired on an American one) came out in the 60s and was used as justification for a full U.S. invasion
  • Over time some suggestions came out that maybe thr story wasn't entirely true, or might have been a misunderstanding, etc.
  • Small changes get made to the official version of events. The U.S. eventually admits its ship was never fired upon.

Note that if you believed the truth at any point up until the final revelation you would have been called some crazy conspiracy theorist and asked why you hate America.

[–] Sator_is_Tense@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Later editions of the book added Afghanistan, and then Iraq, to the list of oppressive states

michael-laugh joker-amerikkklap what a quality fuckin education

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I remember when we received the 'updated' versions and that was literally all that was changed

[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Was given his biographical book to read in high school. To my rural conservative upbringing he certainly did seem "extreme" and he was "wrong" to hate white people and call them devils, but I couldn't help but feel if I was in his shoes, and saw what he saw, and how he was treated - I would hate white people too. I wouldn't want to be "civil" either. And I might even want to use violence. And so, it was another step on my leftward journey.

[–] Pelicanen@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

One thing that's interesting to note (at least for me) is that Malcolm X became much softer and more inclusive later in life while MLK seemed to have become more hardened and cynical with age.